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There's a lot of people in the thread who are saying that people are reacting the way they are to this study because of the "stigma" against mental illness. Wel
by cwyers 8y ago
There's a lot of people in the thread who are saying that people are reacting the way they are to this study because of the "stigma" against mental illness. Well, maybe that's part of it. But there are other things going on here. The Reuters article references the PACE study. And people are not just objecting to the "stigma" but the actual consequences of the study.
https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2015/12/18/28362/ https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2015/12/18/28362/
> I agree it’s an absolute disaster of a paper. It otherwise should not be the object of my attention but there is some nastiness associated with its dissemination. Peter White, one of the authors is paid for working with a group trying to get social welfare payments denied to people with chronic physical illness. He promotes the idea that chronic fatigue syndrome, whatever its origins, is perpetuated by fears of exertion. The deconditioning model that is the basis for these claims has been discredited. So he is forced to rely on dodgy research like this to promote the view that chronic fatigue syndrome is largely “cognitive” and psychosomatic. I’ve seen horrible testimony from him that patients who “appear” to be disabled should be denied handicap parking passes because that will force them to walk more. He has personally testified in a number of hearings where patients with chronic fatigue syndrome have had the benefits revoked.
In other words, the study is being used _by one of the authors_ to deny people state benefits meant to help people with chronic conditions.
- cpncrunch 8y ago>In other words, the study is being used _by one of the authors_ to deny people state benefits meant to help people with chronic conditions. No, that is simply not true. You need to be careful who you listen to. Coyne has a history of nasty abuse against people who disagree with him [1], and there is no evidence whatsoever for that particular statement that you quoted (I just looked for it). PACE was funded by DWP, but it is a huge leap to say that they wanted to deny benefits. They are clearly interested in effective treatment, and if you listen to the recent debate of ME in parliament the DWP specifically have a policy of giving benefits for ME. [1] https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/scientists-trade-insults-over-myalgic-encephalomyelitis-me-study-slk0cv5lj https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/scientists-trade-insults-...