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>Until they actually ship, the Model Y is as much vaporware as Rivian. This is absurd IMO. Tesla has now produced several hundred thousand cars. To suggest the
by leesec 8y ago
>Until they actually ship, the Model Y is as much vaporware as Rivian.
This is absurd IMO. Tesla has now produced several hundred thousand cars. To suggest they have as much credibility as a company who hasn't even created ONE car (please find me a video of someone actually driving it) is crazy. We can all at least assume if Tesla is still viable when Y production is slated, that it will actually be a car.
- freeopinion 8y agoI agree that Tesla has more credibility. That was not my argument. I believe that Tesla will deliver the Model Y. But I have enough hope in the Rivian that it will affect my opinion of the Model Y. Until the Rivian actually fails, and if the promised release dates are comparable to the Model Y, then the Model Y has to compete with it for mindshare. Can Model Y match the promised range of the Rivian? Will the prices be comparable? Passenger count, off-road capabilities, comfort, ... As long as Rivian can dangle a timeframe close to the Model Y, plenty of people will hold off on the Y purchase if the Rivian promises more. As the release date gets closer, Rivian might slip, but right now they compete. I'm just noting that I wouldn't have expected Tesla to have such a competitor yet. For now, it's a competition of promises. But whether it's Rivian, or Ford, or whoever, the competition of reality is almost close enough to taste. Almost...
- cptskippy 8y agoConsidering the vaporware nature of the Rivian at this point, it makes you wonder if it's existence is merely to pressure Tesla and steal mind/market share from them without ever producing anything.
- killyp 8y agoI don't think Amazon would invest almost $1b into a company just to pressure Tesla. I know there are a lot of EV vaporware companies out there but I don't think Rivian is one of them.