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I don't know, the article seemed so badly reasoned from my perspective - a very narrow Western view. In my country (and in my religion) the Swastika is seen eve

I don't know, the article seemed so badly reasoned from my perspective - a very narrow Western view. In my country (and in my religion) the Swastika is seen everywhere and it is no way used in relation to the Nazis at all. Ironically, the fact that it is such a hated symbol, I learned from the Internet. Maybe he's being reasonable because the target audience is indeed Western. Hmm. But from my seat, I find this really lame.

deadsy 16y ago
Right - In India and in many parts of Asia the symbol is considered as a positive, being used for religious adornment, political parties and product advertising. It's a great piece of graphic art and it's a real pity the Nazis screwed it up with bad associations for the western world. Most Americans aren't aware of the Symbol being used in other contexts (my wife expressed surprise when she saw it on a Balinese temple earlier this year). Perhaps as the USA becomes more multi-cultural the symbol can get rehabilitated.
- thwarted 16y ago
  In India and in many parts of Asia the symbol is considered as a positive, being used for religious adornment, political parties and product advertising. Heh, as I was reading the above, I was thinking I wouldn't want to see the stereotypical Republican Elephant or Democrat Donkey used by other players in these games either -- it does distract (in some way, it's sad that people have such strong identification with groups and their symbols like that, it reeks of being proud of groupthink). As the author points out: the game isn't a forum to discuss these things, and symbols like those have meanings that are not part of the core intent of the game or why people are there. Presumably trademarks are out too, but that may be more of a civil legal issue than just having to deal with misinterpretation of intent.
thwarted 16y ago
He really should have put the TL;DR at the top. He could have worded the entire piece as "You may think our policy is capricious and arbitrary but the internet is filled with a lot of jerks. We hope to be consistent in our rulings; you'll just have to deal with it, as we don't want to spend our time dealing with lame issues. And this is a lame issue."
- akkartik 16y ago
  What is the point of putting the tl;dr at the bottom, or the middle, or anywhere but the very top?
  - thwarted 16y ago
    I assume to get people to read the piece. TL;DR at the top is kind of like an Executive Summary, and if I saw something labeled an Executive Summary at the top, or even looked like one, I'd skip the whole thing. I think the key is to make the entire piece short enough but not too long so that it's quick to read and the TL;DR can be used as a good way to describe the entire piece in other contexts.
    - akkartik 16y ago
      "TL;DR can be used as a good way to describe the entire piece in other contexts." Absolutely. Perhaps we just shouldn't be using tl;dr within a piece. There's other words for short forms: abstract, summary, conclusion. Signed, your friendly tl;dr nazi
      - thwarted 16y ago
        Yeah, but I think tl;dr has a certain, not necessarily all negative, connotation. Labeling it as "abstract", "summary" or even "conclusion" maybe would lessen the chances of it being quoted.
Avshalom 16y ago
"a very narrow Western view" Claiming that the swastika is associated with Nazis isn't a "narrow view" if it IS associated with Nazis for half the fucking planet.
- train_robber 16y ago
  Half the population of the world? You might need to think about that, not many in Asia or Africa is that concerned about Nazis. That makes it a non-issue for around 75% of the world.

deadsy 16y ago

Right - In India and in many parts of Asia the symbol is considered as a positive, being used for religious adornment, political parties and product advertising. It's a great piece of graphic art and it's a real pity the Nazis screwed it up with bad associations for the western world. Most Americans aren't aware of the Symbol being used in other contexts (my wife expressed surprise when she saw it on a Balinese temple earlier this year). Perhaps as the USA becomes more multi-cultural the symbol can get rehabilitated.

thwarted 16y ago
In India and in many parts of Asia the symbol is considered as a positive, being used for religious adornment, political parties and product advertising. Heh, as I was reading the above, I was thinking I wouldn't want to see the stereotypical Republican Elephant or Democrat Donkey used by other players in these games either -- it does distract (in some way, it's sad that people have such strong identification with groups and their symbols like that, it reeks of being proud of groupthink). As the author points out: the game isn't a forum to discuss these things, and symbols like those have meanings that are not part of the core intent of the game or why people are there. Presumably trademarks are out too, but that may be more of a civil legal issue than just having to deal with misinterpretation of intent.

thwarted 16y ago

He really should have put the TL;DR at the top. He could have worded the entire piece as "You may think our policy is capricious and arbitrary but the internet is filled with a lot of jerks. We hope to be consistent in our rulings; you'll just have to deal with it, as we don't want to spend our time dealing with lame issues. And this is a lame issue."

akkartik 16y ago
What is the point of putting the tl;dr at the bottom, or the middle, or anywhere but the very top?
- thwarted 16y ago
  I assume to get people to read the piece. TL;DR at the top is kind of like an Executive Summary, and if I saw something labeled an Executive Summary at the top, or even looked like one, I'd skip the whole thing. I think the key is to make the entire piece short enough but not too long so that it's quick to read and the TL;DR can be used as a good way to describe the entire piece in other contexts.
  - akkartik 16y ago
    "TL;DR can be used as a good way to describe the entire piece in other contexts." Absolutely. Perhaps we just shouldn't be using tl;dr within a piece. There's other words for short forms: abstract, summary, conclusion. Signed, your friendly tl;dr nazi
    - thwarted 16y ago
      Yeah, but I think tl;dr has a certain, not necessarily all negative, connotation. Labeling it as "abstract", "summary" or even "conclusion" maybe would lessen the chances of it being quoted.

Avshalom 16y ago

"a very narrow Western view" Claiming that the swastika is associated with Nazis isn't a "narrow view" if it IS associated with Nazis for half the fucking planet.

train_robber 16y ago
Half the population of the world? You might need to think about that, not many in Asia or Africa is that concerned about Nazis. That makes it a non-issue for around 75% of the world.