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The older fishermen I know (small sample) really hate this. They say their usual spots that they and other locals in their community have worked out after decad

The older fishermen I know (small sample) really hate this. They say their usual spots that they and other locals in their community have worked out after decades are now blown out, overcrowded and overfished. The new generation seems to have this thing where they don’t feel that it’s necessary to put in the work to earn things like this, and shout them down for “gatekeeping”. I see the older view of it, but I’m not sure how legitimate that is.

asark 8y ago
I guess people who've put that much time into it must really enjoy the hobby. It probably does suck to have folks who are way less into it come along and mess up their fun, with the magic of technology. It's not like mass media—too many people knowing about some great thing in the real world can ruin it. Especially when those most into whatever activities are associated with those places might be so in no small part because it's a sparse community of people who, if you encounter them at all, are almost guaranteed to behave sensibly and respectfully.
osrec 8y ago
I assume the older generation would not hesitate to pass on their spot information to their kids or grandkids for free. In a sense, they ARE gatekeeping a resource they probably don't even own. I personally don't think this is fair.
- anitil 8y ago
  I gate keep a few spots. I've spent hundreds of hours exploring different spots, and worked out the timing of certain species to within a couple of days at a specific section of reef at a certain time of day. Given that, I have two (slightly contradictory) thoughts: 1) Most people fishing a spot don't understand enough to make it work, so just knowing the spot is basically irrelevant 2) I have worked hard 'my' spots and simply don't feel the need to share.
  - osrec 8y ago
    You not sharing is your prerogative, and that's cool. However, if someone else was to turn up and use that spot; perhaps even "discover" it for themselves, I don't think you should feel any ill will towards them, right? I mean, it's a public space, and as long as they're being respectful, I don't see a problem with many people enjoying it. Sometimes good things get crowded, but that's the nature of public stuff - I don't think it's fair to claim public areas as your personal area just because you found it first.
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asark 8y ago

I guess people who've put that much time into it must really enjoy the hobby. It probably does suck to have folks who are way less into it come along and mess up their fun, with the magic of technology. It's not like mass media—too many people knowing about some great thing in the real world can ruin it. Especially when those most into whatever activities are associated with those places might be so in no small part because it's a sparse community of people who, if you encounter them at all, are almost guaranteed to behave sensibly and respectfully.

osrec 8y ago

I assume the older generation would not hesitate to pass on their spot information to their kids or grandkids for free. In a sense, they ARE gatekeeping a resource they probably don't even own. I personally don't think this is fair.

anitil 8y ago
I gate keep a few spots. I've spent hundreds of hours exploring different spots, and worked out the timing of certain species to within a couple of days at a specific section of reef at a certain time of day. Given that, I have two (slightly contradictory) thoughts: 1) Most people fishing a spot don't understand enough to make it work, so just knowing the spot is basically irrelevant 2) I have worked hard 'my' spots and simply don't feel the need to share.
- osrec 8y ago
  You not sharing is your prerogative, and that's cool. However, if someone else was to turn up and use that spot; perhaps even "discover" it for themselves, I don't think you should feel any ill will towards them, right? I mean, it's a public space, and as long as they're being respectful, I don't see a problem with many people enjoying it. Sometimes good things get crowded, but that's the nature of public stuff - I don't think it's fair to claim public areas as your personal area just because you found it first.
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