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I agree with that. However, what worries me about PWAs is discoverability. How can I find a catalog of available PWAs to download? Is there a way?

by fmo91 8y ago

VBprogrammer 8y ago
Counter point: the discoverability on all of the app stores I've tried has been pretty terrible. Unless I know the name of an app that I'm trying to install I almost never find what I'm looking for. Most often I search for 'the best app to do X' on Google and then put a name from that into the app store.
- Sharlin 8y ago
  App store UX is so horrible I’m sure it is intentional. But I have no idea what they’re trying to achieve. In the case of Apple’s store, I have literally never wanted to browse any of the curated lists of apps, just to open the search view which doesn’t even have the search textbox focused by default!
cobookman 8y ago
Google could easily come in here. Note I work for Google but have no knowledge of Googles PWA products or PWA roadmap
aylmao 8y ago
In theory that's an easy problem: anyone could make an "App Store", especially considering they wouldn't have to host binaries or deliver updates. Something mimicking today's stores would essentially be links you can rate and comment on. Kind of like Reddit, but with a different UI and no direct user submissions.
- sixstringtheory 8y ago
  But crucially, they’d have no way to moderate for bad actors. You can’t just kick a webpage off the net. Things like Reddit style voting can be gamed, just like app store search and reviews are today. Whoever has the most resources wins, not necessarily who has the best product.
  - aylmao 8y ago
    > But crucially, they’d have no way to moderate for bad actors. You can’t just kick a webpage off the net. Yeah. You could technically still kick them off the store for the sake of maintaining trust— like a forum. > Things like Reddit style voting can be gamed, just like app store search and reviews are today. Whoever has the most resources wins, not necessarily who has the best product. Wait, isn't this like current App Store ratings though? I wouldn't be worried about this. It is already the case that many people invest a lot of resources in trying to game the App Store. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
gumby 8y ago
The same way you discover anything else: advertising, word of mouth, web search. How does the user know about Spotify in tthe first place?
emdowling 8y ago
The App Store gives you discoverability and could be argued as being one of the reasons for a 30% cut. If your app can be distributed as a PWA, then the question becomes: is the App Store (which gives you discoverability) worth the 30% revenue cut? For some PWAs the answer will be no.

I agree with that. However, what worries me about PWAs is discoverability. How can I find a catalog of available PWAs to download? Is there a way?

by fmo91 8y ago

I agree with that. However, what worries me about PWAs is discoverability. How can I find a catalog of available PWAs to download? Is there a way?

VBprogrammer 8y ago

Counter point: the discoverability on all of the app stores I've tried has been pretty terrible. Unless I know the name of an app that I'm trying to install I almost never find what I'm looking for. Most often I search for 'the best app to do X' on Google and then put a name from that into the app store.

Sharlin 8y ago
App store UX is so horrible I’m sure it is intentional. But I have no idea what they’re trying to achieve. In the case of Apple’s store, I have literally never wanted to browse any of the curated lists of apps, just to open the search view which doesn’t even have the search textbox focused by default!

cobookman 8y ago

Google could easily come in here. Note I work for Google but have no knowledge of Googles PWA products or PWA roadmap

aylmao 8y ago

In theory that's an easy problem: anyone could make an "App Store", especially considering they wouldn't have to host binaries or deliver updates. Something mimicking today's stores would essentially be links you can rate and comment on. Kind of like Reddit, but with a different UI and no direct user submissions.

sixstringtheory 8y ago
But crucially, they’d have no way to moderate for bad actors. You can’t just kick a webpage off the net. Things like Reddit style voting can be gamed, just like app store search and reviews are today. Whoever has the most resources wins, not necessarily who has the best product.
- aylmao 8y ago
  > But crucially, they’d have no way to moderate for bad actors. You can’t just kick a webpage off the net. Yeah. You could technically still kick them off the store for the sake of maintaining trust— like a forum. > Things like Reddit style voting can be gamed, just like app store search and reviews are today. Whoever has the most resources wins, not necessarily who has the best product. Wait, isn't this like current App Store ratings though? I wouldn't be worried about this. It is already the case that many people invest a lot of resources in trying to game the App Store. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

gumby 8y ago

The same way you discover anything else: advertising, word of mouth, web search. How does the user know about Spotify in tthe first place?

emdowling 8y ago

The App Store gives you discoverability and could be argued as being one of the reasons for a 30% cut. If your app can be distributed as a PWA, then the question becomes: is the App Store (which gives you discoverability) worth the 30% revenue cut? For some PWAs the answer will be no.