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Chrome is just as bad but for different reasons. And perhaps even more dangerous (like slowly eroding privacy, or shaping the browser around Google’s revenue ge

Chrome is just as bad but for different reasons. And perhaps even more dangerous (like slowly eroding privacy, or shaping the browser around Google’s revenue generating services). I think the analogy stands and the damage is similar in magnitude.

kowdermeister 8y ago
Have you used IE6 and lower? Do you know what a CSS hack is?
- close04 8y ago
  Was “for different reasons” too unclear? It’s right at the beginning of the comment. Different reasons but the impact is still dangerous. For example IE6 was not reporting my location to MS despite me turning the option off. Just because some people are ok with that doesn’t make it less of a problem. It just makes it a different (bad) one. And in the passive aggressiveness [0] of your comment you didn’t even think that there are far better reasons why IE6 sucked. If feels random and based less on long term use experience. You write as if you’d be ok with Chrome stabbing you in the eye as long as it’s not a CSS hack, the single reference issue all browsers are benchmarked against. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - kowdermeister 8y ago
    I've read it and I think it's way overblown. All I care about is solid support for standards and Chrome shines it that. I picked them because I could test if you actually experienced it. Chrome at the moment is the best we have but it does come with strings attached. It has different problems indeed, surprise surprise, however I don't think that's that a big issue at all.
    - close04 8y ago
      > All I care about [...] You should have started with that instead of the jab. Not only would it have been clear that it’s a personal opinion not a matter of fact (Chrome is better for me) but it would have also saved you the time of coming back later with the real single biggest issue of IE: standards. The issues Chrome pose for most people right now are real. You don’t care about them for your personal reasons but disqualifying them because they’re not yours is very dismissive. You never know when your interests change.
    - DCoder 8y ago
      > All I care about is solid support for standards and Chrome shines it that. Except for cases when it doesn't feel like supporting the standard in question, or it claims their support is sufficient. A recent example could be support for <input autocomplete="..."> [0]. [0]: https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/ar1qj1//egl52wk/?context=1 https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/ar1qj1//egl52w...

kowdermeister 8y ago

Have you used IE6 and lower? Do you know what a CSS hack is?

close04 8y ago
Was “for different reasons” too unclear? It’s right at the beginning of the comment. Different reasons but the impact is still dangerous. For example IE6 was not reporting my location to MS despite me turning the option off. Just because some people are ok with that doesn’t make it less of a problem. It just makes it a different (bad) one. And in the passive aggressiveness [0] of your comment you didn’t even think that there are far better reasons why IE6 sucked. If feels random and based less on long term use experience. You write as if you’d be ok with Chrome stabbing you in the eye as long as it’s not a CSS hack, the single reference issue all browsers are benchmarked against. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- kowdermeister 8y ago
  I've read it and I think it's way overblown. All I care about is solid support for standards and Chrome shines it that. I picked them because I could test if you actually experienced it. Chrome at the moment is the best we have but it does come with strings attached. It has different problems indeed, surprise surprise, however I don't think that's that a big issue at all.
  - close04 8y ago
    > All I care about [...] You should have started with that instead of the jab. Not only would it have been clear that it’s a personal opinion not a matter of fact (Chrome is better for me) but it would have also saved you the time of coming back later with the real single biggest issue of IE: standards. The issues Chrome pose for most people right now are real. You don’t care about them for your personal reasons but disqualifying them because they’re not yours is very dismissive. You never know when your interests change.
  - DCoder 8y ago
    > All I care about is solid support for standards and Chrome shines it that. Except for cases when it doesn't feel like supporting the standard in question, or it claims their support is sufficient. A recent example could be support for <input autocomplete="..."> [0]. [0]: https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/ar1qj1//egl52wk/?context=1 https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/ar1qj1//egl52w...