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Same here. Cannt use it on my mba 2012. It just to heavy on resources. Chrome handles it without more loosely.

fetbaffe 8y ago
If you want to get away from Chrome my tip is to use Opera. Same engine underneath & can handle same extensions (with a proper extension installed) but without Google. Opera also has a battery saving feature.
- dao- 8y ago
  Opera is also closed source and has been bought by some Chinese consortium, so that may not be the best option if you want to get away from Google for privacy reasons.
  - fetbaffe 8y ago
    Correct. I just think that Google is a bigger problem than this Chinese consortium. If I practically could I would avoid both. Tried running Edge for a while, which is gentle on battery, however Edge is just lacking.
    - dao- 8y ago
      Using Opera only superficially sidesteps the big Google problem, as you still contribute to the Chromium monoculture that reinforces Chrome's dominance and benefits Google.
      - fetbaffe 8y ago
        Yep, sad state of affairs. Sad day when Microsoft succumbed to Chromium monoculture. However when I develop I always develop for Firefox first, but the Firefox developer tools are starting to age as well.
        dao- 8y ago
        At least the performance issue of Firefox on Mac is being worked on and should hopefully be resolved soon: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1429522 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1429522
        fetbaffe 8y ago
        Even though PWA:s are good in theory, will it only increase Google's grip on the web? Has the web standards become so complex that it is inevitable that we will have a Chromium monoculture?
        pps 8y ago
        > should hopefully be resolved soon I want to believe, but I heard that multiple times and still can't even open simplest html websites without hearing the pain of my machine.
        dao- 8y ago
        It had been blocked by webrender if I remember correctly, now the work on fixing this issue has actually started. Markus Stange is a capable engineer as well so there's hope.

If you want to get away from Chrome my tip is to use Opera. Same engine underneath & can handle same extensions (with a proper extension installed) but without Google. Opera also has a battery saving feature.

dao- 8y ago
Opera is also closed source and has been bought by some Chinese consortium, so that may not be the best option if you want to get away from Google for privacy reasons.
- fetbaffe 8y ago
  Correct. I just think that Google is a bigger problem than this Chinese consortium. If I practically could I would avoid both. Tried running Edge for a while, which is gentle on battery, however Edge is just lacking.
  - dao- 8y ago
    Using Opera only superficially sidesteps the big Google problem, as you still contribute to the Chromium monoculture that reinforces Chrome's dominance and benefits Google.
    - fetbaffe 8y ago
      Yep, sad state of affairs. Sad day when Microsoft succumbed to Chromium monoculture. However when I develop I always develop for Firefox first, but the Firefox developer tools are starting to age as well.
      - dao- 8y ago
        At least the performance issue of Firefox on Mac is being worked on and should hopefully be resolved soon: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1429522 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1429522
        fetbaffe 8y ago
        Even though PWA:s are good in theory, will it only increase Google's grip on the web? Has the web standards become so complex that it is inevitable that we will have a Chromium monoculture?
        pps 8y ago
        > should hopefully be resolved soon I want to believe, but I heard that multiple times and still can't even open simplest html websites without hearing the pain of my machine.
        dao- 8y ago
        It had been blocked by webrender if I remember correctly, now the work on fixing this issue has actually started. Markus Stange is a capable engineer as well so there's hope.