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Despite Amazon's posturing about its care for open source, Elastic's response was pathetic. If Elastic doesn't like their Apache 2.0 software getting forked, ma

Despite Amazon's posturing about its care for open source, Elastic's response was pathetic. If Elastic doesn't like their Apache 2.0 software getting forked, maybe they're the ones with "fake altruism or benevolence" (their words). If Elastic is feeling threatened by AWS, they've chosen the wrong business model.

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throwaway12iii 8y ago
> Despite Amazon's posturing about its care for open source, Elastic's response was pathetic. If Elastic doesn't like their Apache 2.0 software getting forked, maybe they're the ones with "fake altruism or benevolence" (their words). If Elastic is feeling threatened by AWS, they've chosen the wrong business model. You still have stocks in Amazon? You worked there for eight years apparently. You are part of the problem. You took part in all their tax dodging, open source exploiting bullshit. You took their massive pay and fucked over lots of people. You're the one who is pathetic.
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- dang 8y ago
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thayne 8y ago
From what I could tell from the response, Elastic didn't have a problem with Amazon forking their product. It was more rebuttal of Amazon's claims that Elastic doesn't really support open source.
- DVassallo 8y ago
  Quote from the Elastic response [1]: "Our products were forked, redistributed and rebundled so many times I lost count. It is a sign of success and the reach our products have. From various vendors, to large Chinese entities, to now, Amazon. There was always a "reason", at times masked with fake altruism or benevolence. None of these have lasted. They were built to serve their own needs, drive confusion, and splinter the community." They're saying Amazon "forked, redistributed and rebundled" just to "to serve their own needs, drive confusion, and splinter the community". That's all BS, except the "serve their own needs", which the license that Elastic has chosen (and benefited from) explicitly grants. [1] https://www.elastic.co/blog/on-open-distros-open-source-and-building-a-company https://www.elastic.co/blog/on-open-distros-open-source-and-...

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throwaway12iii 8y ago

> Despite Amazon's posturing about its care for open source, Elastic's response was pathetic. If Elastic doesn't like their Apache 2.0 software getting forked, maybe they're the ones with "fake altruism or benevolence" (their words). If Elastic is feeling threatened by AWS, they've chosen the wrong business model. You still have stocks in Amazon? You worked there for eight years apparently. You are part of the problem. You took part in all their tax dodging, open source exploiting bullshit. You took their massive pay and fucked over lots of people. You're the one who is pathetic.

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dang 8y ago
Personal attack is unacceptable on HN. We've banned this account. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future.

thayne 8y ago

From what I could tell from the response, Elastic didn't have a problem with Amazon forking their product. It was more rebuttal of Amazon's claims that Elastic doesn't really support open source.

DVassallo 8y ago
Quote from the Elastic response [1]: "Our products were forked, redistributed and rebundled so many times I lost count. It is a sign of success and the reach our products have. From various vendors, to large Chinese entities, to now, Amazon. There was always a "reason", at times masked with fake altruism or benevolence. None of these have lasted. They were built to serve their own needs, drive confusion, and splinter the community." They're saying Amazon "forked, redistributed and rebundled" just to "to serve their own needs, drive confusion, and splinter the community". That's all BS, except the "serve their own needs", which the license that Elastic has chosen (and benefited from) explicitly grants. [1] https://www.elastic.co/blog/on-open-distros-open-source-and-building-a-company https://www.elastic.co/blog/on-open-distros-open-source-and-...