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My company foolishly donated data to Stanford for nearly a decade. We asked them for an 'in kind' license to OpenNLP and were basically completely rebuffed. Th

My company foolishly donated data to Stanford for nearly a decade. We asked them for an 'in kind' license to OpenNLP and were basically completely rebuffed. They're taking in money hand over fist. We need to stop thinking of these as universities anymore. They're cash cows...

Simulacra 8y ago
Tax their endowments.
phonon 8y ago
Do you mean https://github.com/stanfordnlp/CoreNLP https://github.com/stanfordnlp/CoreNLP ? Why would you expect them to relicense GPL libre software to you? What does "in kind" mean?
- nordsieck 8y ago
  > What does "in kind" mean? in-kind (adj): consisting of something (such as goods or commodities) other than money https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/in-kind https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/in-kind
  - phonon 8y ago
    I scored a 800 V on my SAT, I'm familiar with the term. In this context, what does it mean? Equity? Code contribution? Training data?
  - hannasanarion 8y ago
    He's asking, how do you give a good as a gift or payment that is public, free, and open? It's like asking for an "in kind" license to the Declaration of Independence, it just makes no sense.
- solomatov 8y ago
  They mention on their site that they can give it to you under a commercial license. In order to contribute to it, you should follow their CLA: https://github.com/stanfordnlp/CoreNLP/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md https://github.com/stanfordnlp/CoreNLP/blob/master/CONTRIBUT... which transfers copyright to them.
atomical 8y ago
What do you mean a license for OpenNLP?
- rhizome 8y ago
  Probably a license to keep their changes private. https://github.com/stanfordnlp/CoreNLP/blob/master/LICENSE.txt https://github.com/stanfordnlp/CoreNLP/blob/master/LICENSE.t...
jonny_eh 8y ago
A donation is only a donation if you don't expect anything in return.
EpicEng 8y ago
To be fair, if you were donating data then you shouldn't exactly be expecting something in return. If there was an expectation then someone on your end didn't do their job or something on the Stanford end changed.

Simulacra 8y ago

Tax their endowments.

phonon 8y ago

Do you mean https://github.com/stanfordnlp/CoreNLP https://github.com/stanfordnlp/CoreNLP ? Why would you expect them to relicense GPL libre software to you? What does "in kind" mean?

nordsieck 8y ago
> What does "in kind" mean? in-kind (adj): consisting of something (such as goods or commodities) other than money https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/in-kind https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/in-kind
- phonon 8y ago
  I scored a 800 V on my SAT, I'm familiar with the term. In this context, what does it mean? Equity? Code contribution? Training data?
- hannasanarion 8y ago
  He's asking, how do you give a good as a gift or payment that is public, free, and open? It's like asking for an "in kind" license to the Declaration of Independence, it just makes no sense.
solomatov 8y ago
They mention on their site that they can give it to you under a commercial license. In order to contribute to it, you should follow their CLA: https://github.com/stanfordnlp/CoreNLP/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md https://github.com/stanfordnlp/CoreNLP/blob/master/CONTRIBUT... which transfers copyright to them.

atomical 8y ago

What do you mean a license for OpenNLP?

rhizome 8y ago
Probably a license to keep their changes private. https://github.com/stanfordnlp/CoreNLP/blob/master/LICENSE.txt https://github.com/stanfordnlp/CoreNLP/blob/master/LICENSE.t...

jonny_eh 8y ago

A donation is only a donation if you don't expect anything in return.

EpicEng 8y ago

To be fair, if you were donating data then you shouldn't exactly be expecting something in return. If there was an expectation then someone on your end didn't do their job or something on the Stanford end changed.