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Speaking as someone who is forced to vote on a proprietary touchscreen system with no paper trail, I wish researchers were finding cryptographic problems in my

Speaking as someone who is forced to vote on a proprietary touchscreen system with no paper trail, I wish researchers were finding cryptographic problems in my voting system.

komali2 8y ago
I love those systems. In Texas my parents tried to press Betos name, and at the "review results" screen, Cruz was selected. This was a well documented, statewide problem. Malice? User error? Ux idiocy? Who knows!
- ceejayoz 8y ago
  Anyone who ever owned a Palm Pilot went through this. Just shitty capacitive touchscreens.
- specialist 8y ago
  The touchscreens in New Mexico 2004 simply didn't record the votes of Spanish language ballots. Kerry won the state but Bush received the electoral votes. Fortunately, the NM courts agreed and prohibited the further use of the touchscreens. What blows my mind is how invalidating (decertifying) the touchscreens has to be done in each state. I still can't fathom why the feds (eac.gov) can't just pull rank and ban them.
  - ceejayoz 8y ago
    > I still can't fathom why the feds (eac.gov) can't just pull rank and ban them. Article One, Section Four of the Constitution gives this power solely to the State and Federal legislatures. The Executive branch (and it'd probably the FEC, not the EAC) can't pull rank here unless Congress gives them the power to.
    - specialist 8y ago
      And yet HAVA. Which is it? Pick one.
      - ceejayoz 8y ago
        "unless Congress gives them the power to" HAVA is an act of Congress. It does not, to my knowledge, allow the FEC to confiscate voting machines. Maybe it should've been clearer - "no shitty touchscreens!" - but it wasn't.
        specialist 8y ago
        HAVA ushered in the touchscreens. Your concern trolling isn't even wrong. Please. Continue.
tracker1 8y ago
AZ tested some of the on-screen machines... I still prefer the Optical Scan-Tron option. Built in paper trail, super fast, need another booth, a few bucks of cardboard to isolate it from the rest not thousands for another slow touchscreen beast.

Speaking as someone who is forced to vote on a proprietary touchscreen system with no paper trail, I wish researchers were finding cryptographic problems in my voting system.

komali2 8y ago

I love those systems. In Texas my parents tried to press Betos name, and at the "review results" screen, Cruz was selected. This was a well documented, statewide problem. Malice? User error? Ux idiocy? Who knows!

ceejayoz 8y ago
Anyone who ever owned a Palm Pilot went through this. Just shitty capacitive touchscreens.
specialist 8y ago
The touchscreens in New Mexico 2004 simply didn't record the votes of Spanish language ballots. Kerry won the state but Bush received the electoral votes. Fortunately, the NM courts agreed and prohibited the further use of the touchscreens. What blows my mind is how invalidating (decertifying) the touchscreens has to be done in each state. I still can't fathom why the feds (eac.gov) can't just pull rank and ban them.
- ceejayoz 8y ago
  > I still can't fathom why the feds (eac.gov) can't just pull rank and ban them. Article One, Section Four of the Constitution gives this power solely to the State and Federal legislatures. The Executive branch (and it'd probably the FEC, not the EAC) can't pull rank here unless Congress gives them the power to.
  - specialist 8y ago
    And yet HAVA. Which is it? Pick one.
    - ceejayoz 8y ago
      "unless Congress gives them the power to" HAVA is an act of Congress. It does not, to my knowledge, allow the FEC to confiscate voting machines. Maybe it should've been clearer - "no shitty touchscreens!" - but it wasn't.
      - specialist 8y ago
        HAVA ushered in the touchscreens. Your concern trolling isn't even wrong. Please. Continue.

tracker1 8y ago

AZ tested some of the on-screen machines... I still prefer the Optical Scan-Tron option. Built in paper trail, super fast, need another booth, a few bucks of cardboard to isolate it from the rest not thousands for another slow touchscreen beast.