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The article said it was possible to register an LLC in those states without a name, and the CC is (apparently) tied to the LLC, not the owner or employee.

SilasX 8y ago
But they still record the name of the person who registers it, right? It's not like they'll find a homicide tied to a CC and then be like, "oh, the CC is in the name of an ownerless corporation, I guess we're out of luck".
- cypherpunks01 8y ago
  The article is slightly vague on this point. It says NV/WY/NM "don’t require corporations to record their owner", but that is not really accurate. The owners are recorded when the LLCs are filed with the secretary of state, however these states are simply willing to keep the identities of the owners private, without publishing them as most other states do. As in most other states, you do need a Registered Agent, but you can delegate this to an attorney or company who serves to receive legal notices, correspondence, etc. If there is any type of law enforcement investigation of the company, police would simply go to the secretary of state to determine the owners.
  - stcredzero 8y ago
    The owners are recorded when the LLCs are filed with the secretary of state, however these states are simply willing to keep the identities of the owners private How hackable/social engineering proof are these state agencies? How likely is it that they are already compromised by people acting as resources for federal and non-governmental organizations?
    - cypherpunks01 8y ago
      They're just regular departments of their respective states. That is to say, probably about average susceptibility to hacking and social engineering. I don't know any specifics about what might be sent to the feds, but you can be damn sure if the IRS or any other federal agency calls the state they will fully cooperate. None of this would actually work to hide from the government, just from random non-expert members of the public.
      - stcredzero 8y ago
        None of this would actually work to hide from the government, just from random non-expert members of the public. In 2019, one should be most worried about throngs of people who have less income and delusions of grandeur who can organize their groupthink online.
- tetra_proxy 8y ago
  Not all Corp credit cards record the name of the person registering them. The ones my company uses are all tied to the company and we internally manage keeping up with who has what.
  - SilasX 8y ago
    I meant registering the corporation, not the CC.
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SilasX 8y ago

But they still record the name of the person who registers it, right? It's not like they'll find a homicide tied to a CC and then be like, "oh, the CC is in the name of an ownerless corporation, I guess we're out of luck".

cypherpunks01 8y ago
The article is slightly vague on this point. It says NV/WY/NM "don’t require corporations to record their owner", but that is not really accurate. The owners are recorded when the LLCs are filed with the secretary of state, however these states are simply willing to keep the identities of the owners private, without publishing them as most other states do. As in most other states, you do need a Registered Agent, but you can delegate this to an attorney or company who serves to receive legal notices, correspondence, etc. If there is any type of law enforcement investigation of the company, police would simply go to the secretary of state to determine the owners.
- stcredzero 8y ago
  The owners are recorded when the LLCs are filed with the secretary of state, however these states are simply willing to keep the identities of the owners private How hackable/social engineering proof are these state agencies? How likely is it that they are already compromised by people acting as resources for federal and non-governmental organizations?
  - cypherpunks01 8y ago
    They're just regular departments of their respective states. That is to say, probably about average susceptibility to hacking and social engineering. I don't know any specifics about what might be sent to the feds, but you can be damn sure if the IRS or any other federal agency calls the state they will fully cooperate. None of this would actually work to hide from the government, just from random non-expert members of the public.
    - stcredzero 8y ago
      None of this would actually work to hide from the government, just from random non-expert members of the public. In 2019, one should be most worried about throngs of people who have less income and delusions of grandeur who can organize their groupthink online.
tetra_proxy 8y ago
Not all Corp credit cards record the name of the person registering them. The ones my company uses are all tied to the company and we internally manage keeping up with who has what.
- SilasX 8y ago
  I meant registering the corporation, not the CC.
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