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actions? I think this is speaking for itself: https://www.elastic.co/downloads/elasticsearch-oss https://www.elastic.co/downloads/elasticsearch-oss What has Ama

by hypto 8y ago

actions? I think this is speaking for itself: https://www.elastic.co/downloads/elasticsearch-oss https://www.elastic.co/downloads/elasticsearch-oss What has Amazon contributed to yet? Repackage other open source projects that was already existing? I don't call it a contribution.

wgjordan 8y ago
> actions? I think this is speaking for itself: [link] The link is to a packaged, binary distribution of the 'OSS only' features, the assertion was regarding 'significant intermingling of proprietary code into the code base'. The two are not the same. Also, from the release notes linked to from that page, Amazon's assertion that 'neither release notes nor documentation make it clear what is open source and what is proprietary' does appear to be valid.
- hypto 8y ago
  > Amazon's assertion that 'neither release notes nor documentation make it clear what is open source and what is proprietary' Which is a wrong assertion, you can clearly see that it is an under Licence feature by the X-pack mention: https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/xpack-sql.html https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/curr... above the name of the feature.
nemo44x 8y ago
"Repackage other open source projects that was already existing?" Most people don't realize this yet. They are taking other, existing projects which anyone could install themselves for a long time now and framing it like they built these things for their new fork. So much of their "distribution" is just a collection of other open source projects. In the case of the security functionality, that is backed by a company named Search Guard who have an Enterprise Version in addition to the Community Version included in the AWS fork. They forked another project, renamed it and now call it their own.
- pm215 8y ago
  Isn't "a collection of other open source projects" pretty much exactly what a "distribution" usually implies? What you get is the curation/selection of what's included and some reassurance that all the pieces really do work together and other people are using them that way.
- rendel 8y ago
  Amazon has forked more than the community version of Search Guard, see by yourself: https://github.com/floragunncom/search-guard-enterprise-modules/tree/master/src/main/java/com/floragunn/searchguard https://github.com/floragunncom/search-guard-enterprise-modu... https://github.com/opendistro-for-elasticsearch/security-advanced-modules/tree/master/src/main/java/com/amazon/opendistroforelasticsearch/security https://github.com/opendistro-for-elasticsearch/security-adv... They just forked the full code base and tried to remove any reference of Search Guard. I am not sure what really happened here but this smells fishy.
farnulfo 8y ago
What is the path to get this link from front page ? I can't get it from the homepage: https://www.elastic.co/ https://www.elastic.co/, "download" https://www.elastic.co/downloads/ https://www.elastic.co/downloads/ : no download link for the oss distribution
- hypto 8y ago
  You can find the link to the OSS in the notes: https://www.elastic.co/downloads/elasticsearch https://www.elastic.co/downloads/elasticsearch

by hypto 8y ago

wgjordan 8y ago

> actions? I think this is speaking for itself: [link] The link is to a packaged, binary distribution of the 'OSS only' features, the assertion was regarding 'significant intermingling of proprietary code into the code base'. The two are not the same. Also, from the release notes linked to from that page, Amazon's assertion that 'neither release notes nor documentation make it clear what is open source and what is proprietary' does appear to be valid.

hypto 8y ago
> Amazon's assertion that 'neither release notes nor documentation make it clear what is open source and what is proprietary' Which is a wrong assertion, you can clearly see that it is an under Licence feature by the X-pack mention: https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/xpack-sql.html https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/curr... above the name of the feature.

nemo44x 8y ago

"Repackage other open source projects that was already existing?" Most people don't realize this yet. They are taking other, existing projects which anyone could install themselves for a long time now and framing it like they built these things for their new fork. So much of their "distribution" is just a collection of other open source projects. In the case of the security functionality, that is backed by a company named Search Guard who have an Enterprise Version in addition to the Community Version included in the AWS fork. They forked another project, renamed it and now call it their own.

pm215 8y ago
Isn't "a collection of other open source projects" pretty much exactly what a "distribution" usually implies? What you get is the curation/selection of what's included and some reassurance that all the pieces really do work together and other people are using them that way.
rendel 8y ago
Amazon has forked more than the community version of Search Guard, see by yourself: https://github.com/floragunncom/search-guard-enterprise-modules/tree/master/src/main/java/com/floragunn/searchguard https://github.com/floragunncom/search-guard-enterprise-modu... https://github.com/opendistro-for-elasticsearch/security-advanced-modules/tree/master/src/main/java/com/amazon/opendistroforelasticsearch/security https://github.com/opendistro-for-elasticsearch/security-adv... They just forked the full code base and tried to remove any reference of Search Guard. I am not sure what really happened here but this smells fishy.

farnulfo 8y ago

What is the path to get this link from front page ? I can't get it from the homepage: https://www.elastic.co/ https://www.elastic.co/, "download" https://www.elastic.co/downloads/ https://www.elastic.co/downloads/ : no download link for the oss distribution

hypto 8y ago
You can find the link to the OSS in the notes: https://www.elastic.co/downloads/elasticsearch https://www.elastic.co/downloads/elasticsearch