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How "private" is it? Do you store metadata? i.e. if I upload a file and it expires, do you also delete any trace of me, including my IP address?

by hlnas 8y ago

mehrdadn 8y ago
https://send.firefox.com/legal https://send.firefox.com/legal > We receive IP addresses of downloaders and uploaders as part of our standard server logs. These are retained for 90 days, and for that period, may be connected to activity of a file’s download URL. Although we develop our services in ways that minimize identification, you should know that it may be possible to correlate the IP address of a Send user to the IP address of other Mozilla services with accounts; and if there is a match, this could identify the account email address.
- gurpreet- 8y ago
  Why is it a necessity to store information for 90 days? Why not 10 or 30?
  - mehrdadn 8y ago
    > Why is it a necessity to store information for 90 days? Why not 10 or 30? Is there something special about 10 or 30? (You wouldn't ask the same question about 10 or 30?)
    - hlnas 8y ago
      10 or 30 seem shorter, no? I don't have anything to say about 10 or 30, but 90 seems too long in my opinion. I understand the need to keep logs to thwart abuse, but with longer lengths you're just helping law enforcement.
      - mehrdadn 8y ago
        > 10 or 30 seem shorter, no? I don't have anything to say about 10 or 30, but 90 seems too long in my opinion. Sure they're shorter, but wherever they draw the line somebody like you is going to complain. Putting myself in their shoes I don't see any reason why you wouldn't complain about 30 days (even if you really wouldn't). > I understand the need to keep logs to thwart abuse, but with longer lengths you're just helping law enforcement. 90 days cannot be to thwart abuse because...? And helping law enforcement is inherently terrible because...?
        pennaMan 8y ago
        >And helping law enforcement is inherently terrible because Helping in the sense that they open themselves up to be strong-armed by LE
  - robinhood 8y ago
    Legally you have to retain this type of information for at least 90 days. That sucks but it's the law.
    - JohnFen 8y ago
      Not in the US.

How "private" is it? Do you store metadata? i.e. if I upload a file and it expires, do you also delete any trace of me, including my IP address?

by hlnas 8y ago

How "private" is it? Do you store metadata? i.e. if I upload a file and it expires, do you also delete any trace of me, including my IP address?

mehrdadn 8y ago

https://send.firefox.com/legal https://send.firefox.com/legal > We receive IP addresses of downloaders and uploaders as part of our standard server logs. These are retained for 90 days, and for that period, may be connected to activity of a file’s download URL. Although we develop our services in ways that minimize identification, you should know that it may be possible to correlate the IP address of a Send user to the IP address of other Mozilla services with accounts; and if there is a match, this could identify the account email address.

gurpreet- 8y ago
Why is it a necessity to store information for 90 days? Why not 10 or 30?
- mehrdadn 8y ago
  > Why is it a necessity to store information for 90 days? Why not 10 or 30? Is there something special about 10 or 30? (You wouldn't ask the same question about 10 or 30?)
  - hlnas 8y ago
    10 or 30 seem shorter, no? I don't have anything to say about 10 or 30, but 90 seems too long in my opinion. I understand the need to keep logs to thwart abuse, but with longer lengths you're just helping law enforcement.
    - mehrdadn 8y ago
      > 10 or 30 seem shorter, no? I don't have anything to say about 10 or 30, but 90 seems too long in my opinion. Sure they're shorter, but wherever they draw the line somebody like you is going to complain. Putting myself in their shoes I don't see any reason why you wouldn't complain about 30 days (even if you really wouldn't). > I understand the need to keep logs to thwart abuse, but with longer lengths you're just helping law enforcement. 90 days cannot be to thwart abuse because...? And helping law enforcement is inherently terrible because...?
      - pennaMan 8y ago
        >And helping law enforcement is inherently terrible because Helping in the sense that they open themselves up to be strong-armed by LE
- robinhood 8y ago
  Legally you have to retain this type of information for at least 90 days. That sucks but it's the law.
  - JohnFen 8y ago
    Not in the US.