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Protonmail is one of the last sane email providers. Gmail is essentially spyware and they can block your access to your account on a whim, especially if you ref
by nukeop 8y ago
Protonmail is one of the last sane email providers. Gmail is essentially spyware and they can block your access to your account on a whim, especially if you refuse to have a phone number connected to it (phone numbers are commonly used to link your account across many different websites, that's why many of them force users to hand over their phone numbers under the guise of "security" or "2fa").
Protonmail has its problems but I hope they get over them as a company. Personally, so far I've received nothing but great customer support from them.
- dijit 8y agoYou make no mention of fastmail, which as I understand is a very competent and forthcoming third-party email provider.
- 8fingerlouie 8y agoWhich is located in Australia, with it's own can of worms when it comes to privacy concerns. https://www.wired.com/story/australia-encryption-law-global-impact/ https://www.wired.com/story/australia-encryption-law-global-...
- dijit 8y agoI think that’s fair. But it’s not /much/ different legally than using a US company as your third party as a non-US citizen. Non-US citizens have no rights of any kind in terms of data protection from the US government.
- cotelletta 8y agoProtonmail has been a huge disappointment personally. It took days of trying to get my email in over the IMAP bridge, and now it still has weird spazzes where it will suddenly decide to redownload all my 30k emails, effectively making all inbound mail wait for over a day while my laptop fans fire at full speed. On top of that, the mobile app is atrocious. It crashes at a drop of a hat, doesn't autosave drafts, and doesn't even do threading. It also makes terrible use of space, and has a permanent upsell ad in the sidebar, pushing my folders offscreen. Someone actually approved this design... I guess for those weirdos who can live with a webmail client it's servicable, but it's an embarrassment that they've been at it this long, and this is the state of their offering.
- Sir_Substance 8y ago>Protonmail has been a huge disappointment personally. It took days of trying to get my email in over the IMAP bridge, and now it still has weird spazzes where it will suddenly decide to redownload all my 30k emails I've never had this problem, but since you mention the IMAP bridge it's worth noting that a) the linux version of the bridge is still an on-request beta rather than a freely available download despite working flawlessly for me for the last year and a half and b) you can only use the IMAP bridge with subscribed accounts. So if you're using a free account you can't use it at all, but if you have a mix of paid and free accounts only the paid accounts can use the bridge. I find the bridge pretty nice in and of itself, but the way it's managed and monetized is a bit of a trainwreck.
- galadran 8y agoI would highly recommend mailbox.org. Based in Germany, their offering is similar but cheaper than ProtonMail. They are much more flexible as well, and allow for better security. If you want to use the webmail client with javscript PGP (a la ProtonMail), that's supported, but they also allow you manage your own PGP keys and support using Thunderbird or Mailvelope. Additionally you can connect via a Tor Hidden Service if you want and they can PGP encrypt incoming plaintext messages if you want them to.
- josefresco 8y ago> Gmail is essentially spyware Free Gmail is essentially spyware. Why would you trust anything important/private to a provider you're not paying?
- nukeop 8y agoPaid Gmail is spyware in addition to not being free (gratis). Why would you trust an advertising company to run your email?
- josefresco 8y ago> Paid Gmail is spyware Source?