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Maybe it's a confidence thing. Maybe small operators from these regions feel less supported/confident than their European or American counterparts. This might b

Maybe it's a confidence thing. Maybe small operators from these regions feel less supported/confident than their European or American counterparts. This might be a very pessimistic approach but I suppose a lot more phones go ringing when someone from Southwest or RyanAir calls and asks:"Yo, what's up with my planes?".

Svip 8y ago
That just makes it sound worse. Why should Norwegian get better support from Boeing than Comair? While I have no doubt that FAA or EASA would have reacted with more expediency had the crash occurred in their jurisdictions, it scares me to think that Boeing treats its customers differently, depending on whether they are Western or not.
- diplocorp 8y ago
  I think the idea is that Borwegian buys a lot more planes from Boeing.
- wholien 8y ago
  the treatment is probably proportional to how many planes they order. Im sure if ANA or Singapore Airlines have some issue with their 787s, Boeing would respond immediately. Has nothing to do with western but everything to do with money. See Lauda 004 for how Boeing treats a small Austrian airline. They only responded once the CEO (Niki Lauda) forced their hand by saying he would do a public stunt if they didn't respond.
  - salex89 8y ago
    Exactly. I didn't mean to imply that Boeing is discriminating based on the locality of an airline, but there is no denying that there is more money to be earned in places other than Indonesia or Ethiopia. That probably does reflect Boeing sells and airlines buy aircraft. This is just a strong hunch, I have no empirical evidence. Don't get me wrong, I don't believe Airbus is a charity in any way and their sales are different.
  - ValentineC 8y ago
    > Im sure if ANA or Singapore Airlines have some issue with their 787s, Boeing would respond immediately. SilkAir, Singapore Airlines's regional subsidiary, is flying the 737 MAX 8 too.
latch 8y ago
But it isn't just operators. Singapore has banned all flights coming in and out. This is a busy, world-class airport (at least for passengers, but it's hard for me to imagine something that's run so smoothly at that scale for passengers would be a shit show for operators).
merb 8y ago
I do not think that RyanAir has many 737 Max jets. Ryan Air mostly flies with 737-800, but they want to migrate to 737 Max over the years: https://www.ryanair.com/us/en/useful-info/about-ryanair/fleet https://www.ryanair.com/us/en/useful-info/about-ryanair/flee... They try to only fly with a single jet or a maximum of two, to keep the costs down.
- kintamanimatt 8y ago
  As per your link and also Wikipedia, Ryanair doesn’t operate any 737 MAX yet, but have placed orders for them.

Svip 8y ago

That just makes it sound worse. Why should Norwegian get better support from Boeing than Comair? While I have no doubt that FAA or EASA would have reacted with more expediency had the crash occurred in their jurisdictions, it scares me to think that Boeing treats its customers differently, depending on whether they are Western or not.

diplocorp 8y ago
I think the idea is that Borwegian buys a lot more planes from Boeing.
wholien 8y ago
the treatment is probably proportional to how many planes they order. Im sure if ANA or Singapore Airlines have some issue with their 787s, Boeing would respond immediately. Has nothing to do with western but everything to do with money. See Lauda 004 for how Boeing treats a small Austrian airline. They only responded once the CEO (Niki Lauda) forced their hand by saying he would do a public stunt if they didn't respond.
- salex89 8y ago
  Exactly. I didn't mean to imply that Boeing is discriminating based on the locality of an airline, but there is no denying that there is more money to be earned in places other than Indonesia or Ethiopia. That probably does reflect Boeing sells and airlines buy aircraft. This is just a strong hunch, I have no empirical evidence. Don't get me wrong, I don't believe Airbus is a charity in any way and their sales are different.
- ValentineC 8y ago
  > Im sure if ANA or Singapore Airlines have some issue with their 787s, Boeing would respond immediately. SilkAir, Singapore Airlines's regional subsidiary, is flying the 737 MAX 8 too.

latch 8y ago

But it isn't just operators. Singapore has banned all flights coming in and out. This is a busy, world-class airport (at least for passengers, but it's hard for me to imagine something that's run so smoothly at that scale for passengers would be a shit show for operators).

merb 8y ago

I do not think that RyanAir has many 737 Max jets. Ryan Air mostly flies with 737-800, but they want to migrate to 737 Max over the years: https://www.ryanair.com/us/en/useful-info/about-ryanair/fleet https://www.ryanair.com/us/en/useful-info/about-ryanair/flee... They try to only fly with a single jet or a maximum of two, to keep the costs down.

kintamanimatt 8y ago
As per your link and also Wikipedia, Ryanair doesn’t operate any 737 MAX yet, but have placed orders for them.