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> You will ALWAYS have a centralized authority for social. Email isn't centralized. IRC isn't centralized. Syndication platforms like RSS aren't centralized. S

> You will ALWAYS have a centralized authority for social. Email isn't centralized. IRC isn't centralized. Syndication platforms like RSS aren't centralized. Something like twitter could easily be decentralized by posting to some shared database like blockchain or simpler P2P systems.

mschuster91 8y ago
> Email isn't centralized. It is highly centralized. Corporate email aside, most people these days are using either their ISP or Gmail. Running your own mailserver is next to impossible because of dealing with both incoming spam AND having to keep up with the newest "anti-spam" trends that your server isn't blacklisted AND having to keep up with security updates. > IRC isn't centralized. Yes, IRC is next to dead, and most concentrates on the biggest networks (freenode, oftc, ...). > Syndication platforms like RSS aren't centralized RSS was a niche even before the death of Google Reader. > Something like twitter could easily be decentralized by posting to some shared database like blockchain or simpler P2P systems. Bitcoin blockchain can't even match the transaction rate of Visa and friends (~1700 TPS). Twitter averages at ~6000 TPS. The sheer scale at which Twitter, Facebook, Whatsapp, Netflix and Youtube operate makes it very hard to replicate because the required infrastructure is extremely expensive, not to mention the support/moderation effort required to prevent the community from going down.
- dTal 8y ago
  Federated != centralized You can choose a different email provider. You can't choose a different Facebook provider.
- LinuxBender 8y ago
  For me, spam is easy. About 99% of it is rejected by using a regex methodology created by a gent in japan that he named "S25R". [1] [1] - http://www.gabacho-net.jp/en/anti-spam/anti-spam-system.html http://www.gabacho-net.jp/en/anti-spam/anti-spam-system.html I've been using that for about 15 years. Works great. I even implemented it in a medium sized company. The only issues it caused were former employees that were running mail servers on their cable modem and stealing customers for their small businesses.
- JohnFen 8y ago
  > Running your own mailserver is next to impossible because of dealing with both incoming spam AND having to keep up with the newest "anti-spam" trends that your server isn't blacklisted AND having to keep up with security updates. I know this is a common perception, but I don't think that it has more than a kernel of truth to it. I run my own mailserver, and it requires me to spend, on average, maybe an hour a month in maintenance.
  - wrycoder 8y ago
    Yup. I’ve been running one for 15 years, and my maintenance might be a couple of hours every six months.
type0 8y ago
> Syndication platforms like RSS aren't centralized. Something like twitter could easily be decentralized ... And they won't do it, since that's against their interests, hell twitter used to support RSS -even that was to much for them.

mschuster91 8y ago

> Email isn't centralized. It is highly centralized. Corporate email aside, most people these days are using either their ISP or Gmail. Running your own mailserver is next to impossible because of dealing with both incoming spam AND having to keep up with the newest "anti-spam" trends that your server isn't blacklisted AND having to keep up with security updates. > IRC isn't centralized. Yes, IRC is next to dead, and most concentrates on the biggest networks (freenode, oftc, ...). > Syndication platforms like RSS aren't centralized RSS was a niche even before the death of Google Reader. > Something like twitter could easily be decentralized by posting to some shared database like blockchain or simpler P2P systems. Bitcoin blockchain can't even match the transaction rate of Visa and friends (~1700 TPS). Twitter averages at ~6000 TPS. The sheer scale at which Twitter, Facebook, Whatsapp, Netflix and Youtube operate makes it very hard to replicate because the required infrastructure is extremely expensive, not to mention the support/moderation effort required to prevent the community from going down.

dTal 8y ago
Federated != centralized You can choose a different email provider. You can't choose a different Facebook provider.
LinuxBender 8y ago
For me, spam is easy. About 99% of it is rejected by using a regex methodology created by a gent in japan that he named "S25R". [1] [1] - http://www.gabacho-net.jp/en/anti-spam/anti-spam-system.html http://www.gabacho-net.jp/en/anti-spam/anti-spam-system.html I've been using that for about 15 years. Works great. I even implemented it in a medium sized company. The only issues it caused were former employees that were running mail servers on their cable modem and stealing customers for their small businesses.
JohnFen 8y ago
> Running your own mailserver is next to impossible because of dealing with both incoming spam AND having to keep up with the newest "anti-spam" trends that your server isn't blacklisted AND having to keep up with security updates. I know this is a common perception, but I don't think that it has more than a kernel of truth to it. I run my own mailserver, and it requires me to spend, on average, maybe an hour a month in maintenance.
- wrycoder 8y ago
  Yup. I’ve been running one for 15 years, and my maintenance might be a couple of hours every six months.

type0 8y ago

> Syndication platforms like RSS aren't centralized. Something like twitter could easily be decentralized ... And they won't do it, since that's against their interests, hell twitter used to support RSS -even that was to much for them.