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Last year, 27 people were murdered in India due to shared WhatsApp messages. https://www.wired.com/story/how-whatsapp-fuels-fake-news-and-violence-in-india/ htt

Last year, 27 people were murdered in India due to shared WhatsApp messages. https://www.wired.com/story/how-whatsapp-fuels-fake-news-and-violence-in-india/ https://www.wired.com/story/how-whatsapp-fuels-fake-news-and... https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/07/18/technology/whatsapp-india-killings.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/07/18/technology/wh... Facebook is used as a platform to attack Rohingya muslims in Myanmar and Sri Lanka. Over 600,000 have been forced to flee the country. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/27/world/asia/myanmar-government-facebook-rohingya.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/27/world/asia/myanmar-govern... Politicians have hired companies to mine Facebook data of millions of people for use in their campaigns. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook%E2%80%93Cambridge_Analytica_data_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook%E2%80%93Cambridge_Ana... Foreign governments use social media accounts to spread disinformation and destabilize elections. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_20... .....But this whole "regulation" thing is clearly overblown. It's not like there are serious consequences to having multiple Big Brothers that not even the state controls. Right?

NavyNuke 8y ago
Foreign government's use of social media is the most alarming thing in my opinion... Revealed: Israeli Military Monitors Social Media, Blogs and Forums in Search of 'Security Leaks': https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-revealed-israeli-military-monitors-social-media-blogs-and-forums-1.6531061 https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-revealed-israel... Jewish Internet Defense Force: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Internet_Defense_Force https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Internet_Defense_Force
lupire 8y ago
Rwandan genocide via radio https://www.concordia.ca/research/migs/resources/rwanda-radio-transcripts.html https://www.concordia.ca/research/migs/resources/rwanda-radi... Remember the Maine! via newspapers http://www.ushistory.org/us/44c.asp http://www.ushistory.org/us/44c.asp
crummy 8y ago
How does encryption work for group chats on WhatsApp? Could Facebook have moderated these messages to prevent the attacks or is the content still hidden to them?
- zokier 8y ago
  WhatsApp supposedly uses signal protocol, which implies that the messages are e2e encrypted and fb doesn't have any visibility to the contents. Of course like always it is difficult to say what capabilities fb really has. https://techcrunch.com/2014/11/18/end-to-end-for-everyone/ https://techcrunch.com/2014/11/18/end-to-end-for-everyone/
strictnein 8y ago
You clearly don't understand what "big brother" is. "Dangerous" speech has propagated via numerous means for millennia. For example: ~240 years ago people were fomenting revolt using printing presses.
- peterwwillis 8y ago
  Big Brother is an all-seeing, all-knowing, totalitarian leader of a society that wields its power for its own sake, using surveillance as a tool towards that end. That's what some massive corporations effectively are today. People think today's Big Brothers are benign because their mission statements seem just or useful, but as I've shown above, there is significant potential for collateral damage. You're right, and we've needed to control those means numerous times over the millennia. Sometimes just to keep the powerful in power, sometimes to check the powerful, and sometimes to check the surging wave of popular revolt.

NavyNuke 8y ago

Foreign government's use of social media is the most alarming thing in my opinion... Revealed: Israeli Military Monitors Social Media, Blogs and Forums in Search of 'Security Leaks': https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-revealed-israeli-military-monitors-social-media-blogs-and-forums-1.6531061 https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-revealed-israel... Jewish Internet Defense Force: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Internet_Defense_Force https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Internet_Defense_Force

lupire 8y ago

Rwandan genocide via radio https://www.concordia.ca/research/migs/resources/rwanda-radio-transcripts.html https://www.concordia.ca/research/migs/resources/rwanda-radi... Remember the Maine! via newspapers http://www.ushistory.org/us/44c.asp http://www.ushistory.org/us/44c.asp

crummy 8y ago

How does encryption work for group chats on WhatsApp? Could Facebook have moderated these messages to prevent the attacks or is the content still hidden to them?

zokier 8y ago
WhatsApp supposedly uses signal protocol, which implies that the messages are e2e encrypted and fb doesn't have any visibility to the contents. Of course like always it is difficult to say what capabilities fb really has. https://techcrunch.com/2014/11/18/end-to-end-for-everyone/ https://techcrunch.com/2014/11/18/end-to-end-for-everyone/

strictnein 8y ago

You clearly don't understand what "big brother" is. "Dangerous" speech has propagated via numerous means for millennia. For example: ~240 years ago people were fomenting revolt using printing presses.

peterwwillis 8y ago
Big Brother is an all-seeing, all-knowing, totalitarian leader of a society that wields its power for its own sake, using surveillance as a tool towards that end. That's what some massive corporations effectively are today. People think today's Big Brothers are benign because their mission statements seem just or useful, but as I've shown above, there is significant potential for collateral damage. You're right, and we've needed to control those means numerous times over the millennia. Sometimes just to keep the powerful in power, sometimes to check the powerful, and sometimes to check the surging wave of popular revolt.