>Like university is the only place you can go to learn things. I get that the self-reliance learning angle is way overstated, but that's going a bit too far.

>Like university is the only place you can go to learn things. I get that the self-reliance learning angle is way overstated, but that's going a bit too far. I learned programming mostly on my own, albeit while working in QA and having exposure to code and programmers. But it's not like I got mentored or needed someone to hold my hand learning this stuff. If you can read and have the initiative to play around with code and figure it out you'll do a lot better than half the learned fools coming out of university. I consistently out perform my peers with CS degrees when it comes to tracking down a hard bug. I swear some of these people hit the first wall and just have no idea what to do.