>> Dude that is a really ignorant and insulting thing to say. >Why? You obviously have absolutely no idea of the range of reasons people have for being vegan

>> Dude that is a really ignorant and insulting thing to say. >Why? You obviously have absolutely no idea of the range of reasons people have for being vegan do you? Here are a few - Visceral disgust at the though of consuming animal flesh / produce - The view that a vegan diet is healthier than a diet with meat. Also a view that meat products are a significant cause of many of our chronic diseases. Both of these views are well backed by a large amount of science for example 'the China Study'. - The view that plant food is significantly more efficient to produce (5-10 times) and far less harmful for the environment than meat. This is true not just in term of calories but also for protein. See : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_vegetarianism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_vegetarianism - Religious beliefs - The view that human control of animals represents a kind of slavery. - The view that it is immoral for humans to knowingly and unnecessarily kill and/or cause pain to another being. The fact that humans are intelligent enough to have a choice and understand the consequences of their actions is the important thing. Many vegans feel especially strongly about factory farming which is often cruel in the extreme. See : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethics_of_eating_meat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethics_of_eating_meat So now do you see how ignorant your point about lions is? Veganism is primarily about humans relationship to animals not about animals relationships with each other. > I'll bite. How is it a fallacy? By definition, that's how. Look it up : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalistic_fallacy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalistic_fallacy > Citation needed There are so many but I'll just stick with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Study http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Study cause I'm lazy. > Because the market would provide? Yes there would be numerous vegan options with the nutrient mix customized to suit vegan diets. > Either way you still have to work harder and be far more careful with what you eat in order to pull it off so my point still stands. You have to work pretty hard with a meat based diet to avoid the chronic diseases it can cause.