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I get that part. If only all startups could afford managed PaaS services. I might be biased given I've spun up and managed my own infrastructure without much di

by hw 8y ago

I get that part. If only all startups could afford managed PaaS services. I might be biased given I've spun up and managed my own infrastructure without much difficulty, and I can see how some startups would prefer spending the dough on PaaS instead of say hiring or putting it towards marketing. I just had an issue with that blanket statement that it's not kosher to be using a server still. It's totally fine for a startup to be managing their own infrastructure if they've done the cost benefit analysis on it.

spookthesunset 8y ago
Startups can’t afford not to use PaaS. Every second of time they piss away managing their home brew platform is a second they aren’t spending time making their product something people actually want. Managing infrastructure is a solved problem for any startup. Simply spin something up on a heroku-like platform and be done. Anything else is wasting precious time and money.
013a 8y ago
Heroku costs $20/month/dyno. You can probably compare the performance of that to a t3.nano, which is ~$4/month. An engineer costs, lets say $7000/month. Now, all you have to ask is: How much time will the engineer be investing in the infra every month. Lets say you SSH in and update the system packages. 10 minutes? That's $6. Hope nothing goes wrong during the upgrade; remember, you're on the clock. Every minute you spend with that shell open is wasting money. Need to add SSH access for the new guy? Oof, we're gonna have to exchange some SSH keys, that might take 20 minutes. $12. Just got an email from AWS about a new Ubuntu AMI that fixes a security vulnerability... lets plan an upgrade. 1 hour. $30. We want to be more resilient against AWS maintenance downtime on instances, so lets bake an AMI and create an ASG. That's not too hard. Maybe a couple hours. Oh... we just paid the difference for Heroku for an entire year. AND our engineers were able to focus on the product.
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by hw 8y ago

spookthesunset 8y ago

Startups can’t afford not to use PaaS. Every second of time they piss away managing their home brew platform is a second they aren’t spending time making their product something people actually want. Managing infrastructure is a solved problem for any startup. Simply spin something up on a heroku-like platform and be done. Anything else is wasting precious time and money.

013a 8y ago

Heroku costs $20/month/dyno. You can probably compare the performance of that to a t3.nano, which is ~$4/month. An engineer costs, lets say $7000/month. Now, all you have to ask is: How much time will the engineer be investing in the infra every month. Lets say you SSH in and update the system packages. 10 minutes? That's $6. Hope nothing goes wrong during the upgrade; remember, you're on the clock. Every minute you spend with that shell open is wasting money. Need to add SSH access for the new guy? Oof, we're gonna have to exchange some SSH keys, that might take 20 minutes. $12. Just got an email from AWS about a new Ubuntu AMI that fixes a security vulnerability... lets plan an upgrade. 1 hour. $30. We want to be more resilient against AWS maintenance downtime on instances, so lets bake an AMI and create an ASG. That's not too hard. Maybe a couple hours. Oh... we just paid the difference for Heroku for an entire year. AND our engineers were able to focus on the product.

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