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The whole MongoDB thing recently. And it doesn't appear that AWS is hosting these right now, just distributing so they must be paying some kind of licensing fo

The whole MongoDB thing recently. And it doesn't appear that AWS is hosting these right now, just distributing so they must be paying some kind of licensing for ES. But I'm sure that will change.

Mizza 8y ago
The blog post says that some of these features now appear in ESS (AWS hosted ES), and that the rest will arrive soon. Did AWS do the same thing with Mongo?
- sl1ck731 8y ago
  They created a compatible hosted database. I believe in response to some licensing changes MongoDB made, so the AWS service targets the last permitted license release by Mongo. https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/new-amazon-documentdb-with-mongodb-compatibility-fast-scalable-and-highly-available/ https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/new-amazon-documentdb-with-... *I forgot to mention, they did not release the code for this as you may have been looking for apple-to-apple comparison with the ES situation.
  - _msw_ 8y ago
    Hi, I work at AWS on Compute services, but not directly on database services. I also work on broader open source topics at Amazon. Amazon DocumentDB was in development for a long time, and development started well before any of the license changes that MongoDB (the company) made to MongoDB (the database).
kapilvt 8y ago
Re MongoDB, I don't think their pretending to be opensource anymore, just source visible, see https://lukasatkinson.de/2019/mongodb-no-longer-seeks-osi-approval-for-sspl/ https://lukasatkinson.de/2019/mongodb-no-longer-seeks-osi-ap... Re OpenES, its an apache licensed distro without proprietary commercial bits. One of the concerns I have had with the recent trending of some opensource companies (elastic, timescaledb, and others), is that those who mix in proprietary code into their opensource repos, effectively taint contributors who can't even look at git history on a project without viewing stuff thats not opensource.

The whole MongoDB thing recently. And it doesn't appear that AWS is hosting these right now, just distributing so they must be paying some kind of licensing for ES. But I'm sure that will change.

Mizza 8y ago

The blog post says that some of these features now appear in ESS (AWS hosted ES), and that the rest will arrive soon. Did AWS do the same thing with Mongo?

sl1ck731 8y ago
They created a compatible hosted database. I believe in response to some licensing changes MongoDB made, so the AWS service targets the last permitted license release by Mongo. https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/new-amazon-documentdb-with-mongodb-compatibility-fast-scalable-and-highly-available/ https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/new-amazon-documentdb-with-... *I forgot to mention, they did not release the code for this as you may have been looking for apple-to-apple comparison with the ES situation.
- _msw_ 8y ago
  Hi, I work at AWS on Compute services, but not directly on database services. I also work on broader open source topics at Amazon. Amazon DocumentDB was in development for a long time, and development started well before any of the license changes that MongoDB (the company) made to MongoDB (the database).

kapilvt 8y ago

Re MongoDB, I don't think their pretending to be opensource anymore, just source visible, see https://lukasatkinson.de/2019/mongodb-no-longer-seeks-osi-approval-for-sspl/ https://lukasatkinson.de/2019/mongodb-no-longer-seeks-osi-ap... Re OpenES, its an apache licensed distro without proprietary commercial bits. One of the concerns I have had with the recent trending of some opensource companies (elastic, timescaledb, and others), is that those who mix in proprietary code into their opensource repos, effectively taint contributors who can't even look at git history on a project without viewing stuff thats not opensource.