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The physical cells themselves aren't that far ahead of the game (although they are definitely a little bit ahead on the cells), but the whole battery module is

The physical cells themselves aren't that far ahead of the game (although they are definitely a little bit ahead on the cells), but the whole battery module is leagues ahead of anyone else. The performance and degradation of the battery packs is absolutely unparalleled at this time and it remains to be seen when any other company will catch up to them.

rcMgD2BwE72F 8y ago
Then why Tesla are far more efficient than all other EVs on the market in 2019: e-Tron, Jaguar I-PACE, Mercedes EQC, all-electric XC40...?
- reitzensteinm 8y ago
  You're jumping around this thread spamming rabid defenses of Tesla, apparently too quickly to realize that the parent commenter actually agreed with you.
  - rcMgD2BwE72F 8y ago
    We still disagree about the cells not being far ahead of the game. >Cells used in Model 3 are the highest energy density cells used in any electric vehicle. We have achieved this by significantly reducing cobalt content per battery pack while increasing nickel content and still maintaining superior thermal stability. The cobalt content of our Nickel-Cobalt-Aluminum cathode chemistry is already lower than next-generation cathodes that will be made by other cell producers with a Nickel-Manganese-Cobalt ratio of 8:1:1. As a result, even with its battery, the gross weight of Model 3 is on par with its gasoline-powered counterparts. http://electrek.co/2018/05/02/tesla-tsla-releases-q1-results-record-revenue-of-3-4-billion-still-wide-losses/ http://electrek.co/2018/05/02/tesla-tsla-releases-q1-results...
    - reitzensteinm 8y ago
      If your intention is to make Tesla look good, you are achieving the opposite with this mindless spam. Popping up in every Tesla thread regurgitating the shit you read on Electrek adds zero value. I'm sure you have nuanced opinions but you aren't taking the time to read, think about and actually answer what you're replying to, so why should anybody care what you have to say? Churchill put it best: A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.

rcMgD2BwE72F 8y ago

Then why Tesla are far more efficient than all other EVs on the market in 2019: e-Tron, Jaguar I-PACE, Mercedes EQC, all-electric XC40...?

reitzensteinm 8y ago
You're jumping around this thread spamming rabid defenses of Tesla, apparently too quickly to realize that the parent commenter actually agreed with you.
- rcMgD2BwE72F 8y ago
  We still disagree about the cells not being far ahead of the game. >Cells used in Model 3 are the highest energy density cells used in any electric vehicle. We have achieved this by significantly reducing cobalt content per battery pack while increasing nickel content and still maintaining superior thermal stability. The cobalt content of our Nickel-Cobalt-Aluminum cathode chemistry is already lower than next-generation cathodes that will be made by other cell producers with a Nickel-Manganese-Cobalt ratio of 8:1:1. As a result, even with its battery, the gross weight of Model 3 is on par with its gasoline-powered counterparts. http://electrek.co/2018/05/02/tesla-tsla-releases-q1-results-record-revenue-of-3-4-billion-still-wide-losses/ http://electrek.co/2018/05/02/tesla-tsla-releases-q1-results...
  - reitzensteinm 8y ago
    If your intention is to make Tesla look good, you are achieving the opposite with this mindless spam. Popping up in every Tesla thread regurgitating the shit you read on Electrek adds zero value. I'm sure you have nuanced opinions but you aren't taking the time to read, think about and actually answer what you're replying to, so why should anybody care what you have to say? Churchill put it best: A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.