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Interesting fact, Mellanox is an employer of Palestinian programmers in the occupied West Bank and Gaza Strip. Sort of a mixed blessing, cheap labor without ot

Interesting fact, Mellanox is an employer of Palestinian programmers in the occupied West Bank and Gaza Strip. Sort of a mixed blessing, cheap labor without other options because of the occupation, but real opportunities and a more educated and well off population will be more effective at advocating for its rights: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/business/palestinian-high-tech-workers-plugging-shortage-of-israeli-tech-staff-1.6243852 https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/business/palestinian-hig...

dep_b 8y ago
Who currently occupies the West Bank and Gaza Strip? But I think it's a good thing. People working together is one of the best ways to get a better understanding of people you would normally never meet. I've met a ton of different people through tech and it's one of the best parts about it. Meritocracy.
- reallydontask 8y ago
  Israel?
  - krembo 8y ago
    Israel doesn't occupy the Gaza Strip, and we could argue about the occupation of the West Bank.
    - point78 8y ago
      Yeah, they're only bombing the Gaza strip
      - pgtan 8y ago
        Please stop!
        point78 8y ago
        Who ?
    - dragonwriter 8y ago
      > Israel doesn't occupy the Gaza Strip Well, except for the airspace and territorial waters, and enforcing it's security zone on the Gaza side of the Oslo Accord demarcation line.
    - scirocco 8y ago
      Not occupy but surely controls import/export into Gaza?
      - objektif 8y ago
        Yes thats what he meant occupy is like the bare minimum of what they are doing. They do so much more.
      - krembo 8y ago
        Gaza is held by a terrorist group, defined as such by US and other western countries. It also keeps attacking Israel with missiles. Nevertheless Israel exports medicine, food and concrete on a daily basis to help the civilians in Gaza. Do you think Israel should help them more in any way? What is a sufficient aid for an area which you're in war state with? In addition, for importing/exporting commodities, Gaza could use the their western border with Egypt, which in contrary to the Israeli border, the Egyptian is closed most of the time for the same reason - Egypt doesn't accept the terrorist regime in Gaza. Maybe you think Egypt occupies Gaza as well?
    - yogthos 8y ago
      I mean just read this UN report https://irfanchowdhury98.com/2019/03/04/unhrc-report-on-gaza-key-findings/ https://irfanchowdhury98.com/2019/03/04/unhrc-report-on-gaza...
dotancohen 8y ago
I love the spin you put on it. Palestinian programmers make no less than Israeli programmers in the Israeli high technology sector. In fact, that goes for all jobs in the Israeli high-tech sector, from PMs to HR, CTOs. Furthermore, Palestinians in the West bank regularly talk to me about their situation, because I'm what you would call a "settler" and I buy in their towns, and I pick them up hitchhiking, and I talk to them with no borders. They all have family in Jordan and will happily tell you how much better their "occupied" life is than their Jordanian family. And yes, I've been to Jordan and I've been to Egypt and I've been to Lebanon (albeit in uniform on that one). Dislike Israel's policies as much as you want, I'm unhappy with many of them as well. Hate our PM, you'll find good reason to. But there is no need to lie or put spin on the fact that 99% of Israelis have no qualm with Palestinians or pay them less for equal labour. Likewise, 99% of Palestinians have no qualm with Israel or Israelis, and want (like us) to work hard, come home and love our children, and live in peace with our neighbours.
- fxfan 8y ago
  That and the fact that while Israel is blamed for everything, nobody ever mentions how Palestinian children are poisoned with anti-israel rhetoric.
  - zymhan 8y ago
    This is true for so many conflicts around the world sadly. Hate is everywhere.
  - Cyph0n 8y ago
    And Israeli children aren’t? Both sides use outrageous claims to fuel the fire, so to speak.
    - fxfan 8y ago
      how on earth can you compare children toting guns and shouting `death to israel` with whatever the israeli kids are taught? (I doubt they are even told about Palestinians, tbh)
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amitport 8y ago
Updated(!) interesting fact, Nvidia is an employer of Isreali and Palestinian programmers that are getting paid much less than their American counterparts. Cheap labor without other options because of their less competitive job market, but real opportunities and a more educated and well off population will be more effective at advocating for its rights
tome 8y ago
ITT: A standard denial of service attack against discussion of any Israeli company.
golemiprague 8y ago
How is it different to employing someone in the mid west for half the price of silicone valley or India? Can any Indian move to another country and earn more? How is it different to any other country? You just pick on Israel because it is a Jewish country so even when they employ west bankers you find something wrong with it. And Gaza is not occupied by Israel, it is an enemy entity to Israel which want to destroy it. The mere fact that Israeli employ anybody there should give the a noble peace price.

dep_b 8y ago

Who currently occupies the West Bank and Gaza Strip? But I think it's a good thing. People working together is one of the best ways to get a better understanding of people you would normally never meet. I've met a ton of different people through tech and it's one of the best parts about it. Meritocracy.

reallydontask 8y ago
Israel?
- krembo 8y ago
  Israel doesn't occupy the Gaza Strip, and we could argue about the occupation of the West Bank.
  - point78 8y ago
    Yeah, they're only bombing the Gaza strip
    - pgtan 8y ago
      Please stop!
      - point78 8y ago
        Who ?
  - dragonwriter 8y ago
    > Israel doesn't occupy the Gaza Strip Well, except for the airspace and territorial waters, and enforcing it's security zone on the Gaza side of the Oslo Accord demarcation line.
  - scirocco 8y ago
    Not occupy but surely controls import/export into Gaza?
    - objektif 8y ago
      Yes thats what he meant occupy is like the bare minimum of what they are doing. They do so much more.
    - krembo 8y ago
      Gaza is held by a terrorist group, defined as such by US and other western countries. It also keeps attacking Israel with missiles. Nevertheless Israel exports medicine, food and concrete on a daily basis to help the civilians in Gaza. Do you think Israel should help them more in any way? What is a sufficient aid for an area which you're in war state with? In addition, for importing/exporting commodities, Gaza could use the their western border with Egypt, which in contrary to the Israeli border, the Egyptian is closed most of the time for the same reason - Egypt doesn't accept the terrorist regime in Gaza. Maybe you think Egypt occupies Gaza as well?
  - yogthos 8y ago
    I mean just read this UN report https://irfanchowdhury98.com/2019/03/04/unhrc-report-on-gaza-key-findings/ https://irfanchowdhury98.com/2019/03/04/unhrc-report-on-gaza...

dotancohen 8y ago

I love the spin you put on it. Palestinian programmers make no less than Israeli programmers in the Israeli high technology sector. In fact, that goes for all jobs in the Israeli high-tech sector, from PMs to HR, CTOs. Furthermore, Palestinians in the West bank regularly talk to me about their situation, because I'm what you would call a "settler" and I buy in their towns, and I pick them up hitchhiking, and I talk to them with no borders. They all have family in Jordan and will happily tell you how much better their "occupied" life is than their Jordanian family. And yes, I've been to Jordan and I've been to Egypt and I've been to Lebanon (albeit in uniform on that one). Dislike Israel's policies as much as you want, I'm unhappy with many of them as well. Hate our PM, you'll find good reason to. But there is no need to lie or put spin on the fact that 99% of Israelis have no qualm with Palestinians or pay them less for equal labour. Likewise, 99% of Palestinians have no qualm with Israel or Israelis, and want (like us) to work hard, come home and love our children, and live in peace with our neighbours.

fxfan 8y ago
That and the fact that while Israel is blamed for everything, nobody ever mentions how Palestinian children are poisoned with anti-israel rhetoric.
- zymhan 8y ago
  This is true for so many conflicts around the world sadly. Hate is everywhere.
- Cyph0n 8y ago
  And Israeli children aren’t? Both sides use outrageous claims to fuel the fire, so to speak.
  - fxfan 8y ago
    how on earth can you compare children toting guns and shouting `death to israel` with whatever the israeli kids are taught? (I doubt they are even told about Palestinians, tbh)

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amitport 8y ago

Updated(!) interesting fact, Nvidia is an employer of Isreali and Palestinian programmers that are getting paid much less than their American counterparts. Cheap labor without other options because of their less competitive job market, but real opportunities and a more educated and well off population will be more effective at advocating for its rights

tome 8y ago

ITT: A standard denial of service attack against discussion of any Israeli company.

golemiprague 8y ago

How is it different to employing someone in the mid west for half the price of silicone valley or India? Can any Indian move to another country and earn more? How is it different to any other country? You just pick on Israel because it is a Jewish country so even when they employ west bankers you find something wrong with it. And Gaza is not occupied by Israel, it is an enemy entity to Israel which want to destroy it. The mere fact that Israeli employ anybody there should give the a noble peace price.