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As if they had one - https://www.osce.org/odihr/341596?download=true https://www.osce.org/odihr/341596?download=true

by egao1980 8y ago

Strom 8y ago
That's some nice Russian propaganda you have there. With some pretty serious factual mistakes. It claims that non-citizens can't vote in local government elections, but this is false. Citizenship isn't a requirement to vote in local elections. > former USSR citizens who lived in Latvia and Estonia and were deprived of the right to receive its citizenship after the collapse of the USSR What right? Merely living in Estonia doesn't give you any right to citizenship. What's more, it's not that difficult to get citizenship. The main obstacle is learning the local language, as that's part of the test to gain citizenship. All these non-citizens refuse to do so. They take pride in being Russian and speaking Russian. They are openly talking about how great Russia is and how they are waiting for Russia to unite them with the motherland. Estonia gained independence in 1918. Just because USSR occupied us [1] and transported a bunch of people here doesn't give them any rights to citizenship. The Russian population in Estonia grew from about 23,000 people in 1945 to 475,000 in 1991. [2] Now making up for a whopping 30% of the whole population! This is due to systematic transporation of people as part of Russification [3] where the Russians attempt to eradicate native cultures. After the collapse of USSR it was possible for them to go back to Russia and/or get a Russian citizenship. Some did that, but all of these non-citizens still left are people who decided that life with fewer rights than citizens in Estonia is better than becoming a Russian citizen and living in Russia. -- [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_the_Baltic_states https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_the_Baltic_state... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russians_in_Estonia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russians_in_Estonia [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russification https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russification
- codedokode 8y ago
  While the situation in ex-USSR republics is complicated, it is not a good idea to force someone to learn and use some other language.
  - Strom 8y ago
    Certainly and nobody is being forced to learn languages in Estonia, as being an Estonian citizen isn't a requirement to live in Estonia. What's more, citizenships often come with language requirements when we're talking naturalization. Indeed you need to speak Russian to get a Russian citizenship via naturalization. [1] -- [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizenship_of_Russia#Citizenship_act_of_2002 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizenship_of_Russia#Citizens...

As if they had one - https://www.osce.org/odihr/341596?download=true https://www.osce.org/odihr/341596?download=true

That's some nice Russian propaganda you have there. With some pretty serious factual mistakes. It claims that non-citizens can't vote in local government elections, but this is false. Citizenship isn't a requirement to vote in local elections. > former USSR citizens who lived in Latvia and Estonia and were deprived of the right to receive its citizenship after the collapse of the USSR What right? Merely living in Estonia doesn't give you any right to citizenship. What's more, it's not that difficult to get citizenship. The main obstacle is learning the local language, as that's part of the test to gain citizenship. All these non-citizens refuse to do so. They take pride in being Russian and speaking Russian. They are openly talking about how great Russia is and how they are waiting for Russia to unite them with the motherland. Estonia gained independence in 1918. Just because USSR occupied us [1] and transported a bunch of people here doesn't give them any rights to citizenship. The Russian population in Estonia grew from about 23,000 people in 1945 to 475,000 in 1991. [2] Now making up for a whopping 30% of the whole population! This is due to systematic transporation of people as part of Russification [3] where the Russians attempt to eradicate native cultures. After the collapse of USSR it was possible for them to go back to Russia and/or get a Russian citizenship. Some did that, but all of these non-citizens still left are people who decided that life with fewer rights than citizens in Estonia is better than becoming a Russian citizen and living in Russia. -- [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_the_Baltic_states https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_the_Baltic_state... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russians_in_Estonia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russians_in_Estonia [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russification https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russification

codedokode 8y ago
While the situation in ex-USSR republics is complicated, it is not a good idea to force someone to learn and use some other language.
- Strom 8y ago
  Certainly and nobody is being forced to learn languages in Estonia, as being an Estonian citizen isn't a requirement to live in Estonia. What's more, citizenships often come with language requirements when we're talking naturalization. Indeed you need to speak Russian to get a Russian citizenship via naturalization. [1] -- [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizenship_of_Russia#Citizenship_act_of_2002 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizenship_of_Russia#Citizens...