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>From what I understand, this does not seem to be the case. Maybe. Determinism isn't dead, by any means. Depending on what model of quantum mechanics turns out
by cthalupa 8y ago
>From what I understand, this does not seem to be the case.
Maybe. Determinism isn't dead, by any means. Depending on what model of quantum mechanics turns out to actually be correct, full determinism might be just fine. But even if one of the models that would invalidate full on determinism is correct, 'adequate determinism', similar to what Stephen Hawking believed in, might apply - the idea that the level any quantum fluctuations occur at makes it unlikely to result in any difference at the level that human thought, etc., operates at.
- emmanuel_1234 8y agoAdditionally, an individual's next "move" (whatever that may be) being unpredictable doesn't make it "free will". Universal predictability would definitely disprove free-will, but disproving universal predictability tells us nothing about free-will.
- root_axis 8y agoWithout predictability there is no distinction between "free" and "random".
- laughingman2 8y agoExactly, which makes "free will" a semantic nonsense term. Understanding that neither determinism nor in-determinism of the universe show anything about popular conception of free will (libertarian sense) allows one to exit a semantic misconception.
- cthalupa 8y agoI'm not sure I follow. If determinism is correct, then given enough storage and computational power (or intelligence capable of doing this within their mind), an outside observer would be able to figure out every single action I would ever take before I took it. If how my brain works is deterministic, and all of my encounters are able to be pre-determined, and those all deterministically shape my decisions and actions, then... how I can I possess libertarian free will?