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I think the answer to the question what's the point is to notice that there's a bit of a rhetorical trick going on. Notice how they say (in passive voice) propo

I think the answer to the question what's the point is to notice that there's a bit of a rhetorical trick going on. Notice how they say (in passive voice) proposes building a national Domain Name System to allow the internet to continue functioning even if the country is cut off from foreign infrastructure. So you're trying to analyze this as if a foreign country tries to cut Russia off from the internet. The Russian government has an interest of its own in cutting itself off from the internet to control its own citizens' speech on the internet, it's just that it's a little bit cynical to imagine it and it wouldn't be balanced to mention it explicitly in a news article.

erikpukinskis 8y ago
The U.S. did cut Russia off during midterms last year didn’t we? It’s not a what if.
- gdy 8y ago
  We haven't noticed it here in Russia :)
- walrus01 8y ago
  Citation? I am unaware of even a single Russian ISP that has been cut off from a traffic exchange point in Western Europe. This would make news in the internet infrastructure community if it occurred.
  - WillPostForFood 8y ago
    This is what he is referring to: https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/431614-us-cyber-operation-blocked-internet-for-russian-troll-farm-on-election https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/431614-us-cyber-ope... Saying the US, "cut Russia off" is a massive overstatement, but something did happen.
gdy 8y ago
"So you're trying to analyze this as if a foreign country tries to cut Russia off from the internet." Well, Russia has been threatened to be cut off from SWIFT. At about the same time several Russian banks has been cut off from VISA and MC and after that Russia has built nation payment processing and forced VISA and MC use it for intra-Russia payments. Being cut off from the internet is more far fetched but given the increased role of the internet in Russian economy and state services it is something that cannot be completely ignored. Another possibility is that Russia cuts off itself after the multitude of crippling Stuxnet-like attacks via internet on targets of significant economical and industrial value.
- conistonwater 8y ago
  > Russia has been threatened to be cut off from SWIFT Do you have a link for this claim? All I get when googling "russia cut off from swift" is a bunch of rt/zerohedge/tass stuff (wtf is TruNews?), followed by some clear denials in ft/bloomberg. Is there more to this than just the Russian government saying stuff?
  - gdy 8y ago
    I most certainly do. 13. Recalls that the restrictive measures taken by the EU are directly linked to the Russian Federation’s violation of international law with the illegal annexation of Crimea and the destabilisation of Ukraine, while the trade measures taken by the Russian Federation, including those against Ukraine and other Eastern Partnership countries which have recently concluded Association Agreements with the EU, are unjustified; calls for the EU to consider excluding Russia from civil nuclear cooperation and the Swift system; http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//TEXT+TA+P8-TA-2014-0025+0+DOC+XML+V0//EN http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//...
    - conistonwater 8y ago
      Was this seriously considered, or is it just the European Parliament saying things? When I google this stuff, I can't find anything to support it like an actual plan or something.

erikpukinskis 8y ago

The U.S. did cut Russia off during midterms last year didn’t we? It’s not a what if.

gdy 8y ago
We haven't noticed it here in Russia :)
walrus01 8y ago
Citation? I am unaware of even a single Russian ISP that has been cut off from a traffic exchange point in Western Europe. This would make news in the internet infrastructure community if it occurred.
- WillPostForFood 8y ago
  This is what he is referring to: https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/431614-us-cyber-operation-blocked-internet-for-russian-troll-farm-on-election https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/431614-us-cyber-ope... Saying the US, "cut Russia off" is a massive overstatement, but something did happen.

gdy 8y ago

"So you're trying to analyze this as if a foreign country tries to cut Russia off from the internet." Well, Russia has been threatened to be cut off from SWIFT. At about the same time several Russian banks has been cut off from VISA and MC and after that Russia has built nation payment processing and forced VISA and MC use it for intra-Russia payments. Being cut off from the internet is more far fetched but given the increased role of the internet in Russian economy and state services it is something that cannot be completely ignored. Another possibility is that Russia cuts off itself after the multitude of crippling Stuxnet-like attacks via internet on targets of significant economical and industrial value.

conistonwater 8y ago
> Russia has been threatened to be cut off from SWIFT Do you have a link for this claim? All I get when googling "russia cut off from swift" is a bunch of rt/zerohedge/tass stuff (wtf is TruNews?), followed by some clear denials in ft/bloomberg. Is there more to this than just the Russian government saying stuff?
- gdy 8y ago
  I most certainly do. 13. Recalls that the restrictive measures taken by the EU are directly linked to the Russian Federation’s violation of international law with the illegal annexation of Crimea and the destabilisation of Ukraine, while the trade measures taken by the Russian Federation, including those against Ukraine and other Eastern Partnership countries which have recently concluded Association Agreements with the EU, are unjustified; calls for the EU to consider excluding Russia from civil nuclear cooperation and the Swift system; http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//TEXT+TA+P8-TA-2014-0025+0+DOC+XML+V0//EN http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//...
  - conistonwater 8y ago
    Was this seriously considered, or is it just the European Parliament saying things? When I google this stuff, I can't find anything to support it like an actual plan or something.