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Parents like this should be denied all tax-exempts. They should even have to pay a high extra tax. That tax money can then go into vaccination education and tre

Parents like this should be denied all tax-exempts. They should even have to pay a high extra tax. That tax money can then go into vaccination education and treatment of unvaccinated children.

bjoli 8y ago
In France vaccination is mandatory, and not vaccinating your kinds is considered child abuse in the eyes of the law. I have argued for a long time that not following the child vaccination programme (in Sweden,my home country) should disqualify you from childcare and any public schools since you are putting other kids at risk. then I'd probably withdraw their government benefits (1050sek/month/child) Edit: but of course, one should also see to what works on the population scale. Sweden has no compulsory vaccination, but also has the highest percentage of vaccinated kids in the world. I do however think removing child benefits or limiting childcare for unvaccinated kids is a good idea. You can choose whether you vaccinate your kids, but you can't choose not to have an infection sensitive kid that can't be vaccinated.
- sorokod 8y ago
  Probably would have no effect on the boy's parents as they seem to be ok with takin the financial hit and further risk the child's life.
- timonoko 8y ago
  In Finland they vaccinated us at school without asking anybody. And without any pre-announcement. Acute polio epidemic as I recall. So it is totally possible to organize mass-vaccinations without much ado.
- DanBC 8y ago
  > should disqualify you from childcare and any public schools since you are putting other kids at risk. In the UK you're allowed to home-educate your child, and we see disproportionate numbers of parents with conspiracy-theory mindsets home-educating. This is because we see larger numbers of "freemen on the land" and "sovereign citizens" in this group. Excluding these children from mainstream education feels satisfying, but may well be counter productive. At school they get to see all their friends having BCG and polio vaccines (I had these at school, are they still given?) and not suffering any harm. They also get less indoctrination about wierd ideas. And I'm uncomfortable with making the child suffer because they have an idiot for a parent. So, it's a bit tricky.
  - bjoli 8y ago
    Sweden has no homeschooling (except for one orthodox Jewish family a couple of years ago which I believe ended up in the supreme court. I don't know the final.judgement though), so that problem is already solved. But yes, that is a problem.
dogma1138 8y ago
Parents like this should be denied being parents this is what CPS should be call on for.
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notus 8y ago
The people that such a policy would actually apply to are not who you think of as typical pro-plague people. Vaccination rates among low income households and minority households is lower than white households. It would mostly target those people instead of the pro-plague movement.

Parents like this should be denied all tax-exempts. They should even have to pay a high extra tax. That tax money can then go into vaccination education and treatment of unvaccinated children.

bjoli 8y ago

In France vaccination is mandatory, and not vaccinating your kinds is considered child abuse in the eyes of the law. I have argued for a long time that not following the child vaccination programme (in Sweden,my home country) should disqualify you from childcare and any public schools since you are putting other kids at risk. then I'd probably withdraw their government benefits (1050sek/month/child) Edit: but of course, one should also see to what works on the population scale. Sweden has no compulsory vaccination, but also has the highest percentage of vaccinated kids in the world. I do however think removing child benefits or limiting childcare for unvaccinated kids is a good idea. You can choose whether you vaccinate your kids, but you can't choose not to have an infection sensitive kid that can't be vaccinated.

sorokod 8y ago
Probably would have no effect on the boy's parents as they seem to be ok with takin the financial hit and further risk the child's life.
timonoko 8y ago
In Finland they vaccinated us at school without asking anybody. And without any pre-announcement. Acute polio epidemic as I recall. So it is totally possible to organize mass-vaccinations without much ado.
DanBC 8y ago
> should disqualify you from childcare and any public schools since you are putting other kids at risk. In the UK you're allowed to home-educate your child, and we see disproportionate numbers of parents with conspiracy-theory mindsets home-educating. This is because we see larger numbers of "freemen on the land" and "sovereign citizens" in this group. Excluding these children from mainstream education feels satisfying, but may well be counter productive. At school they get to see all their friends having BCG and polio vaccines (I had these at school, are they still given?) and not suffering any harm. They also get less indoctrination about wierd ideas. And I'm uncomfortable with making the child suffer because they have an idiot for a parent. So, it's a bit tricky.
- bjoli 8y ago
  Sweden has no homeschooling (except for one orthodox Jewish family a couple of years ago which I believe ended up in the supreme court. I don't know the final.judgement though), so that problem is already solved. But yes, that is a problem.

dogma1138 8y ago

Parents like this should be denied being parents this is what CPS should be call on for.

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notus 8y ago

The people that such a policy would actually apply to are not who you think of as typical pro-plague people. Vaccination rates among low income households and minority households is lower than white households. It would mostly target those people instead of the pro-plague movement.