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> His analysis was quickly dismissed as being unscientific and incorrect by experts in the impact of research. https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-474

> His analysis was quickly dismissed as being unscientific and incorrect by experts in the impact of research. https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-47478537 https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-47478537 Racists and misogynist have been using bad science to justify their views for centuries. (See, for example, phrenology.) Once identified as such, we are under no obligation to continue suffering such fools.

lawnchair_larry 8y ago
What do racists and misogynists have to do with anything being discussed? See, you’re doing it too. Maybe one day you can consider accepting the possibility that a non-racist, non-misogynist might wonder if race or sex can influence general outcomes in a given domain! Personally, I find the idea that it can only influence athletic performance (which I understand is a difference that polite society allows us to acknowledge) to be extremely unlikely. I actually would rank “women, in general, are inherently better than men at <currently male dominated field>“ to be more likely than “in general, men and women are exactly the same”.
- tptacek 8y ago
  He didn't call you a racist or a misogynist, or even Strumia (though I'll say it: Strumia is a misogynist). He simply pointed out that the basic mechanisms of scientific discussion have been abused to push dumb ideas in the past, which is obviously true. That is in fact a flaw in your argument. You're the one getting triggered here.
  - leereeves 8y ago
    Do you know Strumia personally well enough to say what you said, or have you just bought into a smear campaign against him?
    - tptacek 8y ago
      I have bought into the campaign against him.
      - yxn 8y ago
        Seems to be a good way to gain power for a talker like you.
  - cqqwdq 8y ago
    Of course he did: "Once identified as such, we are under no obligation to continue suffering such fools." How can this not be related to the issue at hand? Also, could you please read the guidelines and refrain from statements like "You're the one getting triggered here."?
belorn 8y ago
When it comes to gender equality discussion, both side seems to always accuse the other of bad science. To mention a few: The effect of estrogen on emotional stability. The effect of testosterone on violence and crime. The pay gap in respect to unadjusted versus adjusted data. Blind audition and p values. Domestic violence statistics and reported rate of abuse. If there is a neurobiological change in victims of sexual assault. Sexsomnia and how common it is. Campus rape statistics and if its one-quarter of all college girls.

lawnchair_larry 8y ago

What do racists and misogynists have to do with anything being discussed? See, you’re doing it too. Maybe one day you can consider accepting the possibility that a non-racist, non-misogynist might wonder if race or sex can influence general outcomes in a given domain! Personally, I find the idea that it can only influence athletic performance (which I understand is a difference that polite society allows us to acknowledge) to be extremely unlikely. I actually would rank “women, in general, are inherently better than men at <currently male dominated field>“ to be more likely than “in general, men and women are exactly the same”.

tptacek 8y ago
He didn't call you a racist or a misogynist, or even Strumia (though I'll say it: Strumia is a misogynist). He simply pointed out that the basic mechanisms of scientific discussion have been abused to push dumb ideas in the past, which is obviously true. That is in fact a flaw in your argument. You're the one getting triggered here.
- leereeves 8y ago
  Do you know Strumia personally well enough to say what you said, or have you just bought into a smear campaign against him?
  - tptacek 8y ago
    I have bought into the campaign against him.
    - yxn 8y ago
      Seems to be a good way to gain power for a talker like you.
- cqqwdq 8y ago
  Of course he did: "Once identified as such, we are under no obligation to continue suffering such fools." How can this not be related to the issue at hand? Also, could you please read the guidelines and refrain from statements like "You're the one getting triggered here."?

belorn 8y ago

When it comes to gender equality discussion, both side seems to always accuse the other of bad science. To mention a few: The effect of estrogen on emotional stability. The effect of testosterone on violence and crime. The pay gap in respect to unadjusted versus adjusted data. Blind audition and p values. Domestic violence statistics and reported rate of abuse. If there is a neurobiological change in victims of sexual assault. Sexsomnia and how common it is. Campus rape statistics and if its one-quarter of all college girls.