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You keep a file with all the bullying (dates, emails, anyone else in the room, etc). Collect all that then plan your exit. During your exit interview explain th

You keep a file with all the bullying (dates, emails, anyone else in the room, etc). Collect all that then plan your exit. During your exit interview explain the bullying and give them a copy of the file. Be polite and professional. You’ll be burning bridges, but you don’t wanna go back.

moomin 8y ago
Let’s be frank, quite often not only do HR know, they’ve been actively protecting these people for years.
- JustSomeNobody 8y ago
  I realize that. What they may not know is how many people have left directly because of that bad manager.
BeetleB 8y ago
>During your exit interview explain the bullying and give them a copy of the file. If it gets to the point where I'm quitting because of it, why would I bother giving them the record of evidence? Why would I want to improve the organization that I am leaving? Put explicitly, if the work culture is such that I don't have reasonable avenues to improve the situation without quitting (e.g. via HR and skip level), then I really don't care to help them out when I've given up hope for them. If they want to improve, they should set it up such that the only way to improve is by employees quitting. People usually don't quit capriciously. It's a tough decision, and a lot of work to find a desirable alternative job. I don't want to give them charity on my way out, especially if they've wasted a significant amount of my off-work time looking for a job.
- protomyth 8y ago
  Maybe you like some of your co-workers, or maybe you just want to leave a better situation for the next person. Some folks just don't like entropy. Frankly, I don't think it would do any good at all anyway. HR will just ignore it, and some damn fool might decide to call you a troublemaker later on. HR does love its status quo.
hodgesrm 8y ago
I think this is only worth doing if you plan to stay and you are willing to make an effort to get the person fired. If you have already moved on it smacks of taking revenge and can have career downsides.
- heavenlyblue 8y ago
  >> can have career downsides. Not really. If they are indeed a psychopath - you'll definitely find support from other people who understand their dysfunction. They'll be happy to support you next time as you were the one to call them up on that.

moomin 8y ago

Let’s be frank, quite often not only do HR know, they’ve been actively protecting these people for years.

JustSomeNobody 8y ago
I realize that. What they may not know is how many people have left directly because of that bad manager.

BeetleB 8y ago

>During your exit interview explain the bullying and give them a copy of the file. If it gets to the point where I'm quitting because of it, why would I bother giving them the record of evidence? Why would I want to improve the organization that I am leaving? Put explicitly, if the work culture is such that I don't have reasonable avenues to improve the situation without quitting (e.g. via HR and skip level), then I really don't care to help them out when I've given up hope for them. If they want to improve, they should set it up such that the only way to improve is by employees quitting. People usually don't quit capriciously. It's a tough decision, and a lot of work to find a desirable alternative job. I don't want to give them charity on my way out, especially if they've wasted a significant amount of my off-work time looking for a job.

protomyth 8y ago
Maybe you like some of your co-workers, or maybe you just want to leave a better situation for the next person. Some folks just don't like entropy. Frankly, I don't think it would do any good at all anyway. HR will just ignore it, and some damn fool might decide to call you a troublemaker later on. HR does love its status quo.

hodgesrm 8y ago

I think this is only worth doing if you plan to stay and you are willing to make an effort to get the person fired. If you have already moved on it smacks of taking revenge and can have career downsides.

heavenlyblue 8y ago
>> can have career downsides. Not really. If they are indeed a psychopath - you'll definitely find support from other people who understand their dysfunction. They'll be happy to support you next time as you were the one to call them up on that.