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I stand corrected on the internal us terminology. But the dictionary definition of citizenship refers to country. Do you have one example of a visa regime which

by sgc 8y ago

I stand corrected on the internal us terminology. But the dictionary definition of citizenship refers to country. Do you have one example of a visa regime which differentiates between different locations within a country?

toast0 8y ago
Here's are a couple articles about China's special visa practices for people from the Jammu and Kashmir region of India in 2009. [1] [2] I wasn't aware of this contemporaneously, so I don't know quite what it was about, but it sounds like if you were from Jammu and Kashmir, your visa would be issued as a paper visa, and if you were from the rest of India, it would be issued as a stamp. A quick look at sample US passports indicates place of birth including state, so it would be feasible to implement. My dictionary [3] has many definitions for citizen, none of which are very specific about being ascribed to a country, although the example does use a country: > 1 : an inhabitant of a city or town especially : one entitled to the rights and privileges of a freeman > 2a : a member of a state > b : a native or naturalized person who owes allegiance to a government and is entitled to protection from it > // She was an American citizen but lived most of her life abroad. > 3 : a civilian as distinguished from a specialized servant of the state > // Soldiers were sent to protect the citizens. [1] https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/nri/visa-and-immigration/china-hints-at-scrapping-stapled-visa-for-jammu-and-kashmir-people/articleshow/7970880.cms https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/nri/visa-and-immigratio... [2] http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2009/10/02/why-is-china-issuing-separate-visas-to-residents-of-indian-kashmir/ http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2009/10/02/why-is-china-issui... [3] https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/citizen https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/citizen
- sgc 8y ago
  I was pretty sure China would be the example that would show up. Not a great example to emulate. The term state in that context means country, which is why citizen is a synonym for national. in the Oxford English Dictionary, that is the first definition, and secondarily (and more historically than anything) it refers to citizens of a town. It might be in use locally, but I have never heard anyone use the term citizen in that way other than poetically, and I have spent time in a number of English speaking regions.

by sgc 8y ago

toast0 8y ago

Here's are a couple articles about China's special visa practices for people from the Jammu and Kashmir region of India in 2009. [1] [2] I wasn't aware of this contemporaneously, so I don't know quite what it was about, but it sounds like if you were from Jammu and Kashmir, your visa would be issued as a paper visa, and if you were from the rest of India, it would be issued as a stamp. A quick look at sample US passports indicates place of birth including state, so it would be feasible to implement. My dictionary [3] has many definitions for citizen, none of which are very specific about being ascribed to a country, although the example does use a country: > 1 : an inhabitant of a city or town especially : one entitled to the rights and privileges of a freeman > 2a : a member of a state > b : a native or naturalized person who owes allegiance to a government and is entitled to protection from it > // She was an American citizen but lived most of her life abroad. > 3 : a civilian as distinguished from a specialized servant of the state > // Soldiers were sent to protect the citizens. [1] https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/nri/visa-and-immigration/china-hints-at-scrapping-stapled-visa-for-jammu-and-kashmir-people/articleshow/7970880.cms https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/nri/visa-and-immigratio... [2] http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2009/10/02/why-is-china-issuing-separate-visas-to-residents-of-indian-kashmir/ http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2009/10/02/why-is-china-issui... [3] https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/citizen https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/citizen

sgc 8y ago
I was pretty sure China would be the example that would show up. Not a great example to emulate. The term state in that context means country, which is why citizen is a synonym for national. in the Oxford English Dictionary, that is the first definition, and secondarily (and more historically than anything) it refers to citizens of a town. It might be in use locally, but I have never heard anyone use the term citizen in that way other than poetically, and I have spent time in a number of English speaking regions.