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CERN did not cut ties because some other scientists rebutted his claims. This was completely ideologically driven. Strumia was presenting on a gender workshop a
by zarkov99 8y ago
CERN did not cut ties because some other scientists rebutted his claims. This was completely ideologically driven. Strumia was presenting on a gender workshop and his crime was to be counter-narrative. Check for yourself:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1c_NyUhOZ8erdqU2AGZJZtNfFeA91Kefj/view https://drive.google.com/file/d/1c_NyUhOZ8erdqU2AGZJZtNfFeA9...
And if you have any question as to CERN's motivation, here is their official statement:
Updated on 1 October 2018
From 26 to 28 September, CERN hosted the first workshop on High Energy Theory and Gender focusing on recent developments in theoretical high-energy physics and cosmology, and discussed issues of gender and equal opportunities in the field.
It is unfortunate that one of the 38 sessions, by a scientist from one of the collaborating universities, risks overshadowing the important message and achievements of the event.
CERN, like many members of the community, considers that the presentation, with its attacks on individuals, was unacceptable in any professional context and was contrary to the CERN Code of Conduct. It, therefore, decided to remove the slides from the online repository.
On Monday, 1 October, CERN suspended the scientist from any activity at CERN with immediate effect, pending investigation into last week’s event.
CERN is a culturally diverse organisation bringing together people of many different nationalities. It is a place where everyone is welcome, and all have the same opportunities, regardless of ethnicity, beliefs, gender or sexual orientation. Indeed, diversity is one of the core values underpinning our Code of Conduct and the Organization is fully committed to promoting diversity and equality at all levels.
CERN always strives to carry out its scientific mission in a peaceful and inclusive environment.
- geofft 8y agoI didn't say CERN cut ties because other scientists rebutted the claims - CERN is entirely within their rights, and it is entirely appropriate for the progress of science, to cut ties because the researcher was incapable of collaborating in a productive manner with other scientists. I said that, nonetheless, the claims were rebutted in the end (unless they were not?), and therefore the comment "one would think Physicists could easily debunk them if they were bogus" does not apply - they have been debunked. The comment "Ideology over science" does not apply because there was science; the comment "feelings over truth" does not apply because there was truth; the comment "shrieking, hysterical pronouncements over rational argument" does not apply because there was rational argument.
- zarkov99 8y agoAll right, point taken. Reading through the so called rebuttal though, there is not much there, hardly any of the arguments or actual data are disputed, there is suggestion that maybe there is another explanation for the disparity in outcomes with no specific data provided to support it. I think it is fair to say no actual debunking as been accomplished and what is left to explain the dismissal is ideology and the desire not to hurt feelings. I concede that the shrieking hysterics was hyperbole on my part.
- thebooktocome 8y agoSo, to summarize, you did not take the point.