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Any way you slice it, discussion on ways to bypass scanners is not that relevant to technology. More importantly, there are a large number of sites where 'polit

by Charuru 16y ago

Any way you slice it, discussion on ways to bypass scanners is not that relevant to technology. More importantly, there are a large number of sites where 'politics' can be discussed, don't infest a hacker site with it.

lwhi 16y ago
It's entirely relevant to technology. Whether you like it or not, technology doesn't happen in a vacuum. Technology relates to people and society in a big way. When usage of a device (like the millimetre wave scanner) is misguided and unappreciated by a large number of people, why on earth _shouldn't_ it be discussed on a tech forum? It's not enough to take the view that 'I just make the stuff .. other people can choose whether it's a good idea'. We all have a responsibility to consider whether what we create is going to result in anything 'good' and what 'good' actually means.
- Pahalial 16y ago
  That's bypassing the point. Discussed once, absolutely; discussed in hundreds of posts, maybe not so much. http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Anews.ycombinator.com+intitle%3ATSA http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Anews.ycombinator.com+i...
- Charuru 16y ago
  What you're talking about are your opinions and your personal philosophical beliefs of only tangential relevance to technology. Discussing them is not what I signed up here for. You wanna talk about it? I have a reddit account, you know?
  - lwhi 16y ago
    What you're talking about are your opinions and your personal philosophical beliefs [..] discussing them is exactly what I signed up here for. .. or are you claiming you only express facts ;)
stcredzero 16y ago
Did you read the grandparent comment? The point made was that politics suffuses everything. You can't exclude politics. Robert Heinlein once commented that politics is like peristalsis -- the result isn't very pretty, but it's necessary for life and you ignore it at your peril!
- Charuru 16y ago
  I didn't say you should ignore politics. I read real news, just like other people. I took offense at the parent comment's implication that just because I oppose talking about the TSA on HN that I'm somehow ignorant or amoral. Give me a fucking break, it's about the signal to noise ratio, It's about me being able to regard HN as my 'industry journal' vs random water cooler chat.

by Charuru 16y ago

lwhi 16y ago

It's entirely relevant to technology. Whether you like it or not, technology doesn't happen in a vacuum. Technology relates to people and society in a big way. When usage of a device (like the millimetre wave scanner) is misguided and unappreciated by a large number of people, why on earth _shouldn't_ it be discussed on a tech forum? It's not enough to take the view that 'I just make the stuff .. other people can choose whether it's a good idea'. We all have a responsibility to consider whether what we create is going to result in anything 'good' and what 'good' actually means.

Pahalial 16y ago
That's bypassing the point. Discussed once, absolutely; discussed in hundreds of posts, maybe not so much. http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Anews.ycombinator.com+intitle%3ATSA http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Anews.ycombinator.com+i...
Charuru 16y ago
What you're talking about are your opinions and your personal philosophical beliefs of only tangential relevance to technology. Discussing them is not what I signed up here for. You wanna talk about it? I have a reddit account, you know?
- lwhi 16y ago
  What you're talking about are your opinions and your personal philosophical beliefs [..] discussing them is exactly what I signed up here for. .. or are you claiming you only express facts ;)

stcredzero 16y ago

Did you read the grandparent comment? The point made was that politics suffuses everything. You can't exclude politics. Robert Heinlein once commented that politics is like peristalsis -- the result isn't very pretty, but it's necessary for life and you ignore it at your peril!

Charuru 16y ago
I didn't say you should ignore politics. I read real news, just like other people. I took offense at the parent comment's implication that just because I oppose talking about the TSA on HN that I'm somehow ignorant or amoral. Give me a fucking break, it's about the signal to noise ratio, It's about me being able to regard HN as my 'industry journal' vs random water cooler chat.