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Ben Shapiro acts respectfully when answering students and debating BLM or other persons. I've seen so many instances of bad behavior on the part of his convers
by tailrecursion 8y ago
Ben Shapiro acts respectfully when answering students and debating BLM or other persons. I've seen so many instances of bad behavior on the part of his conversation partner, yet Ben remains cool and professional. The worst I remember is that instance where he refused to use a pronoun on Television. If I recall the trans person in that situation behaved very badly.
Jordan Peterson remains cool, even with interviewers that treat him badly.
Dave Rubin says repeatedly he's willing to talk to people, and that people refuse him and don't invite him.
Tim Pool keeps his cool in the midst of online and real-world dust-ups.
Tarl Warwick is also calm cool and collected. He'll talk to anyone.
Any leftist who wants to engage others productively can look to Pool as a good example.
Jimmy Dore is on the left (according to himself at least), and he's civil.
My impression is that most anyone on the spectrum will talk to anyone else, except for Resisters, who seem to have a visceral dislike for Trump that clouds their reason; and the far left, who object more or less to the entire western way of life, or capitalism, or something that would require a large amount of dismantling. It takes a lot of dissatisfaction to want to start from scratch, and these persons seem to be the most badly behaved. So my guess is they feel most of the contempt and also are the ones who receive the most contempt -- because of their abusive behavior. In fact, if the far left has any lasting principle at all it would appear to be that contempt is a wonderful club to use against anyone who isn't responding properly to their dogma.
- DyslexicAtheist 8y ago> Jordan Peterson remains cool, even with interviewers that treat him badly. I had no idea about Jordan Peterson until his name popped up in the pronoun controversy. Being sick of all the bickering in this space I never watched it until I stumbled over some old lectures of him on addiction last week. Some of the best content I've ever come across to understand human psychology. His dissection of Pinocchio¹ is absolutely top. I can't say that I agree on everything he says (e.g. his view on abortion gets me riled up like nothing else), but nor do I have to. Whatever his views outside his work in psychology have little bearing on his work and should be judged independently. If society nails everyone to the cross that we disagree in 1/20 topics then there won't be any people left. Peterson actively reaches out to right wingers in order to help them and include them in the conversation. I think this is the way to go - the alternative can only lead to violent outcomes. ¹ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN2lyN7rM4E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN2lyN7rM4E
- DyslexicAtheist 8y agoWhat better example to illustrate the Culture of Contempt then the downvotes of my endorsement of JBP's early work here on HN. People wondering and debating here about what's wrong with America right now need to look no further. This character assassination that goes hand in hand with rewriting the history (e.g. music stations refusing to play Michael Jackson) is a typical element of fascism. Pretty much proof that the left is as fucking deluded as the right. The only conclusion that one can make is that society deserves exactly what it is asking for (from climate change all the way to Trump). Fucking bring it lol!
- dang 8y agoWould you please stop it with the flamebait here? We've asked you more than once. If you don't want to be banned here, you need to follow the rules. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- noobermin 8y agoYou're being a little selective here.
- rlt 8y agoSam Harris is a good one on the left. Joe Rogan is fairly neutral but has a lot of interesting guests from both sides on.
- rlt 8y agoCan someone explain the downvotes?