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> And honestly, I would be more concerned about hiring someone who built their own bespoke framework from scratch than someone who used an existing one If they
by jnbiche 8y ago
> And honestly, I would be more concerned about hiring someone who built their own bespoke framework from scratch than someone who used an existing one
If they're over 45, then they likely worked in the late 90s and early 00s. If they were like many of us, then they worked on at least some web applications back then. This was far before jQuery and even Prototype.js on the frontend. Java, PHP and Perl were commonly used on the backend (or where I lived, more often IIS with asp). But the start of the career of someone in their 50s and even 45+ was before any commonly-used framework in open source scripting languages used for web development (unless you consider PHP to be a framework).
Even Spring framework was only created in 2003 (I just checked to confirm). Symfony in PHP was 2005. And those took several years to catch on in their respective ecosystems.
Tons of companies had in-house frameworks back then. Who did you think wrote them?
Even if someone working back then never explicitly built a framework, they used design patterns that mirror today's frameworks. If not, they were writing spaghetti code (and to be fair, that was pretty common back then).
Based on your username and your assertion ("older than you"), you're what, 45? Have you forgotten what it was like back then?
- scarface74 8y agoIn the late 90s early 2000s every website was a bunch of spaghetti code with a mix of code and html - the original VB based active server pages, JSP, or even ugly Perl and PHP. But when he said he “made his own web frameworks”, I’m assuming he was talking about this decade.
- jnbiche 8y ago> But when he said he “made his own web frameworks”, I’m assuming he was talking about this decade. I re-read the comment in question. Not sure why you would have assumed that. Someone who is now 37 likely started programming before the age of web frameworks.
- erikpukinskis 8y agoNo, your parent was correct. I am currently building a complete web application hosting toolkit that I started in earnest in 2015. I worked on it this week. I wouldn't call it a framework, because it's built of small independent pieces, but it's a similar scope to something like Rails. I did start coding long before web frameworks existed though. :)