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And if Microsoft didn't treat its customers like sacks of exploitable data and idiots who need Candy Crush forced on them, then maybe people would've been more

by worble 8y ago

And if Microsoft didn't treat its customers like sacks of exploitable data and idiots who need Candy Crush forced on them, then maybe people would've been more inclined to upgrade. The fault is with them, not the users; by actively alienating customers Microsoft has inherently made the world a less secure place. And no, for those with massive Steam libraries and other Windows only software "just switch to Linux/Mac" isn't a viable or acceptable alternative.

ocdtrekkie 8y ago
This isn't about what's good or bad for Microsoft. You are making a very bad decision for yourself if you are trying to keep an old, insecure version of Windows. Having to spend five seconds uninstalling Candy Crush is not a good excuse for not using a vastly more secure operating system. Also, a surprisingly large percentage of your Steam library will work on Linux. And you can always use a VM for those that don't.
- yjftsjthsd-h 8y ago
  > Having to spend five seconds uninstalling Candy Crush Straw-manning arguments does not make your case more convincing. Trying to make NT10 a reasonable platform (rip out the dumb preloaded junk, neuter most of the spyware, make updates give the user some choice in when they're applied) takes a massive amount of effort and is a constant game of cat-and-mouse against MS.
staticassertion 8y ago
Can you uninstall Candy Crush? It doesn't seem that egregious if so. It is / was an extremely popular game, they probably figured: * We can make some money * Users love this garbage anyways I haven't been a Windows user for years, but Windows 10 looks fairly impressive - especially from a security standpoint.
- iliketosleep 8y ago
  I found that Candy Crush and other junk kept coming back after updates, wasting a lot of time and data. This combined with the crazy amount of telemetry sent to MS makes it less impressive from a security standpoint. It's a pity because Windows 10 does have great potential.
  - staticassertion 8y ago
    Oh yeah - if it kept coming back that's pretty annoying.
  - Santosh83 8y ago
    Must be peculiar to some users. I have used Windows 10 Home since 2015 on my laptop and yes, Candy Crush was installed the very first time I installed 10 (as a free in-place upgrade over 8.1), and I uninstalled it from the Store app and never saw it again in my menu. This despite upgrading through several versions of Windows 10 from 2015 to now (1809 at present.) As for updates force rebooting, they only do so during designated non-active hours, which I set from 2AM to 5AM and leave my laptop on. By the next morning, its updated and ready to use. One thing I don't like about 10 is how updates tend to uninstall my hardware manufacturer's drivers and replace them with vanilla Windows ones and I have to go through the tedious process of re-installing them. Happens most often with webcam and sound drivers. Oh, and I don't use any hack software like ShutUp10 etc. This is just stock Windows.
    - Silhouette 8y ago
      As for updates force rebooting, they only do so during designated non-active hours, which I set from 2AM to 5AM and leave my laptop on. This presumes that any hours can reasonably be designated non-active. For some professionals, and for that matter some home users if they work shifts or the like, that simply won't be the case.
  - cptskippy 8y ago
    The junk, including Candy Crush, was never downloaded or installed on your system. Those were just tiles that, if clicked on, would download and install them.

by worble 8y ago

ocdtrekkie 8y ago

This isn't about what's good or bad for Microsoft. You are making a very bad decision for yourself if you are trying to keep an old, insecure version of Windows. Having to spend five seconds uninstalling Candy Crush is not a good excuse for not using a vastly more secure operating system. Also, a surprisingly large percentage of your Steam library will work on Linux. And you can always use a VM for those that don't.

yjftsjthsd-h 8y ago
> Having to spend five seconds uninstalling Candy Crush Straw-manning arguments does not make your case more convincing. Trying to make NT10 a reasonable platform (rip out the dumb preloaded junk, neuter most of the spyware, make updates give the user some choice in when they're applied) takes a massive amount of effort and is a constant game of cat-and-mouse against MS.

staticassertion 8y ago

Can you uninstall Candy Crush? It doesn't seem that egregious if so. It is / was an extremely popular game, they probably figured: * We can make some money * Users love this garbage anyways I haven't been a Windows user for years, but Windows 10 looks fairly impressive - especially from a security standpoint.

iliketosleep 8y ago
I found that Candy Crush and other junk kept coming back after updates, wasting a lot of time and data. This combined with the crazy amount of telemetry sent to MS makes it less impressive from a security standpoint. It's a pity because Windows 10 does have great potential.
- staticassertion 8y ago
  Oh yeah - if it kept coming back that's pretty annoying.
- Santosh83 8y ago
  Must be peculiar to some users. I have used Windows 10 Home since 2015 on my laptop and yes, Candy Crush was installed the very first time I installed 10 (as a free in-place upgrade over 8.1), and I uninstalled it from the Store app and never saw it again in my menu. This despite upgrading through several versions of Windows 10 from 2015 to now (1809 at present.) As for updates force rebooting, they only do so during designated non-active hours, which I set from 2AM to 5AM and leave my laptop on. By the next morning, its updated and ready to use. One thing I don't like about 10 is how updates tend to uninstall my hardware manufacturer's drivers and replace them with vanilla Windows ones and I have to go through the tedious process of re-installing them. Happens most often with webcam and sound drivers. Oh, and I don't use any hack software like ShutUp10 etc. This is just stock Windows.
  - Silhouette 8y ago
    As for updates force rebooting, they only do so during designated non-active hours, which I set from 2AM to 5AM and leave my laptop on. This presumes that any hours can reasonably be designated non-active. For some professionals, and for that matter some home users if they work shifts or the like, that simply won't be the case.
- cptskippy 8y ago
  The junk, including Candy Crush, was never downloaded or installed on your system. Those were just tiles that, if clicked on, would download and install them.