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Why do you think it won't ever be? Also that's literally just your opinion that it won't soon be capable. It's definitely Musk's opinion that it will soon be c

by leesec 8y ago

Why do you think it won't ever be? Also that's literally just your opinion that it won't soon be capable. It's definitely Musk's opinion that it will soon be capable. Mine too.

CPLX 8y ago
I'm talking about an actual car that was sold like a two years ago to someone. I mean it's possible that Tesla someday will be able to create some kind of autonomous car and sell it to someone. But they've been claiming that the cars people already have will, in the future, be able to be autonomous. Those statements are most accurately described as lying.
- leesec 8y ago
  Tesla's plan is to replace the Nvidia chip in the car with it's own much more powerful chip. This is going to allow them to achieve autonomy. Those cars sold 2 years ago will be autonomous. That's the plan anyways.
FireBeyond 8y ago
Musk is stating, for the record, that your Tesla will be able to drive, _coast to coast_, full level 5 autonomy - poor roads, blizzard conditions - THIS YEAR. Given that the autopilot system has been evolving for five years (introduced in 2014 for Tesla) and still has problems like "aims at water barriers and accelerates", "fails to recognize that trucks may be more complex than simple cube in space", "fails to recognize that vehicles of a certain color may be hard to see when driving towards the sun"... and that will all be solved "this year" (t minus 9 months and change) seems... supremely optimistic. I was going to call it naive, but that's an insult - Elon certainly knows far more about self driving than I do. But this is the equivalent of man kind making fire, making the wheel, and then turning that into a car as the next logical step, ignoring all the interim.
- leesec 8y ago
  I don't think the bar is set at 100% autonomy. I think he's saying it will be possible your car can do those things and probably do them safer than a human, there will still be edge cases for many years I'm sure. I do think blizzards are unlikely to be solved soon but that's a very small % of driving that humans are also bad at.

by leesec 8y ago

Why do you think it won't ever be? Also that's literally just your opinion that it won't soon be capable. It's definitely Musk's opinion that it will soon be capable. Mine too.

CPLX 8y ago

I'm talking about an actual car that was sold like a two years ago to someone. I mean it's possible that Tesla someday will be able to create some kind of autonomous car and sell it to someone. But they've been claiming that the cars people already have will, in the future, be able to be autonomous. Those statements are most accurately described as lying.

leesec 8y ago
Tesla's plan is to replace the Nvidia chip in the car with it's own much more powerful chip. This is going to allow them to achieve autonomy. Those cars sold 2 years ago will be autonomous. That's the plan anyways.

FireBeyond 8y ago

Musk is stating, for the record, that your Tesla will be able to drive, _coast to coast_, full level 5 autonomy - poor roads, blizzard conditions - THIS YEAR. Given that the autopilot system has been evolving for five years (introduced in 2014 for Tesla) and still has problems like "aims at water barriers and accelerates", "fails to recognize that trucks may be more complex than simple cube in space", "fails to recognize that vehicles of a certain color may be hard to see when driving towards the sun"... and that will all be solved "this year" (t minus 9 months and change) seems... supremely optimistic. I was going to call it naive, but that's an insult - Elon certainly knows far more about self driving than I do. But this is the equivalent of man kind making fire, making the wheel, and then turning that into a car as the next logical step, ignoring all the interim.

leesec 8y ago
I don't think the bar is set at 100% autonomy. I think he's saying it will be possible your car can do those things and probably do them safer than a human, there will still be edge cases for many years I'm sure. I do think blizzards are unlikely to be solved soon but that's a very small % of driving that humans are also bad at.