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That's not what the party wants, national laws is for no ethnic discrimination, if people don't have jobs, they create trouble, and economic improvement and pro

That's not what the party wants, national laws is for no ethnic discrimination, if people don't have jobs, they create trouble, and economic improvement and providing jobs is basically what the CCP is building it's power base on.

deogeo 8y ago
In fact, the party is even doing affirmative action, by providing work and education camps specifically for ethnic minorities, to help them integrate!
- Cyph0n 8y ago
  Free education and guaranteed work? Sign me up!
- watwat1 8y ago
  Oh so that’s what those re-education camps are...
- forkLding 8y ago
  There is an actual affirmative action in China for ethnic minorities which provides beneficial university admissions and no-interest business loans etc.: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action_in_China https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action_in_China The one you're talking about is religion, which is funny considering that communism is anti-religion, why are you surprised, my grandma goes to an underground Chinese church, religion was always bad in China. You will notice most of the guards and police in Xinjiang are Uyghur, they're just not Muslim. If you read NYT, you will see that they're pressuring them to "renounce Islam": https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2019/02/17/world/asia/uighurs-china-internment-camps.amp.html https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2019/02/17/worl... Also do you not hear the hypocrisy, why would CCP want you to break their national laws? CCP can break their own laws, doesn't mean you can. How about you break the national law on censorship next? It will become a slippery slope.
  - yorwba 8y ago
    > You will notice most of the guards and police in Xinjiang are Uyghur, they're just not Muslim. That's interesting. Wikipedia tells me that 45.84% of the population of Xinjiang are Uyghurs and they're predominantly Muslim, so how come they're overrepresented in the police force? I guess they could easily be lying about their religions or were not serious adherents in the first place, but still you'd expect to also see many Han Chinese working those jobs. Did you only mean those parts of Xinjiang that are > 70% Uyghur? > Also do you not hear the hypocrisy, why would CCP want you to break their national laws? CCP can break their own laws, doesn't mean you can. How about you break the national law on censorship next? It will become a slippery slope. That looks like you meant to reply to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19340226 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19340226 instead.
    - forkLding 8y ago
      They have to be "politically legitimate" and Atheist to be police in Xinjiang, massive recruitment drive in Xinjiang for police too. Where I'm citing, sources are all Chinese: http://www.epochtimes.com/gb/18/11/28/n10879799.htm http://www.epochtimes.com/gb/18/11/28/n10879799.htm http://www.gjgwy.org/201810/399611.html http://www.gjgwy.org/201810/399611.html
      - yorwba 8y ago
        I'm not sure whether you're a native speaker (I'm not) but reading your first link doesn't inspire me with confidence that the majority of police in Xinjiang are Uyghur. The internal recruitment drive in Xinjiang that requires applicants to be "politically legitimate" and atheist is only aimed at teachers, and those requirements seem likely to exclude Uyghurs one way or another. The reason given in the article why so many teachers are even needed is that many Uyghur teachers have been interned in camps and the government is seeking replacement for them. They also quote Dilxat Raxit, spokesman of the World Uyghur Congress, as saying that the CCP doesn't trust Uyghur policemen to remain loyal in case of a conflict, and therefore prefers recruiting Han Chinese. The announcement in your second link is given as evidence of that, since it's published on the nationwide platform, which would make it more likely to attract Han Chinese than locally within the Kyrgyz autonomous prefecture.
nucleardog 8y ago
It's trivial to find many examples of the government itself violating this "law". I see no reason to believe that they'd take any steps to step in and protect Uyghurs' from discrimination in the job market while at the same time detaining them in concentration camps.

deogeo 8y ago

In fact, the party is even doing affirmative action, by providing work and education camps specifically for ethnic minorities, to help them integrate!

Cyph0n 8y ago
Free education and guaranteed work? Sign me up!
watwat1 8y ago
Oh so that’s what those re-education camps are...
forkLding 8y ago
There is an actual affirmative action in China for ethnic minorities which provides beneficial university admissions and no-interest business loans etc.: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action_in_China https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action_in_China The one you're talking about is religion, which is funny considering that communism is anti-religion, why are you surprised, my grandma goes to an underground Chinese church, religion was always bad in China. You will notice most of the guards and police in Xinjiang are Uyghur, they're just not Muslim. If you read NYT, you will see that they're pressuring them to "renounce Islam": https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2019/02/17/world/asia/uighurs-china-internment-camps.amp.html https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2019/02/17/worl... Also do you not hear the hypocrisy, why would CCP want you to break their national laws? CCP can break their own laws, doesn't mean you can. How about you break the national law on censorship next? It will become a slippery slope.
- yorwba 8y ago
  > You will notice most of the guards and police in Xinjiang are Uyghur, they're just not Muslim. That's interesting. Wikipedia tells me that 45.84% of the population of Xinjiang are Uyghurs and they're predominantly Muslim, so how come they're overrepresented in the police force? I guess they could easily be lying about their religions or were not serious adherents in the first place, but still you'd expect to also see many Han Chinese working those jobs. Did you only mean those parts of Xinjiang that are > 70% Uyghur? > Also do you not hear the hypocrisy, why would CCP want you to break their national laws? CCP can break their own laws, doesn't mean you can. How about you break the national law on censorship next? It will become a slippery slope. That looks like you meant to reply to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19340226 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19340226 instead.
  - forkLding 8y ago
    They have to be "politically legitimate" and Atheist to be police in Xinjiang, massive recruitment drive in Xinjiang for police too. Where I'm citing, sources are all Chinese: http://www.epochtimes.com/gb/18/11/28/n10879799.htm http://www.epochtimes.com/gb/18/11/28/n10879799.htm http://www.gjgwy.org/201810/399611.html http://www.gjgwy.org/201810/399611.html
    - yorwba 8y ago
      I'm not sure whether you're a native speaker (I'm not) but reading your first link doesn't inspire me with confidence that the majority of police in Xinjiang are Uyghur. The internal recruitment drive in Xinjiang that requires applicants to be "politically legitimate" and atheist is only aimed at teachers, and those requirements seem likely to exclude Uyghurs one way or another. The reason given in the article why so many teachers are even needed is that many Uyghur teachers have been interned in camps and the government is seeking replacement for them. They also quote Dilxat Raxit, spokesman of the World Uyghur Congress, as saying that the CCP doesn't trust Uyghur policemen to remain loyal in case of a conflict, and therefore prefers recruiting Han Chinese. The announcement in your second link is given as evidence of that, since it's published on the nationwide platform, which would make it more likely to attract Han Chinese than locally within the Kyrgyz autonomous prefecture.

nucleardog 8y ago

It's trivial to find many examples of the government itself violating this "law". I see no reason to believe that they'd take any steps to step in and protect Uyghurs' from discrimination in the job market while at the same time detaining them in concentration camps.