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> >Take, for example, > And... attempting to extrapolate from a single data point Im not extrapolating from a single data point. I said "for example", and the

> >Take, for example, > And... attempting to extrapolate from a single data point Im not extrapolating from a single data point. I said "for example", and then gave an example. Here are some more: https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/heres-the-full-recording-of-wilfrid-laurier-reprimanding-lindsay-shepherd-for-showing-a-jordan-peterson-video https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/heres-the-full-recordin... https://www.chronicle.com/article/What-the-Grievance/244753 https://www.chronicle.com/article/What-the-Grievance/244753 > If anything, the global rise in populism, anti-feminist and anti immigrant sentiment points to the opposite trend. I am not aware of any such sentiments. Have any data points? > >Governmental and corporate boards are increasingly forcefully including women to achieve "equal" representation, regardless of measured abilities. > Attempting to correct systemic gender bias is not an expression of a belief that "men are bad". This is begging the question. I do not accept your premise that systemic gender bias exists, and even if I did im sure we would disagree about the extent that it does. Gender differences exist individually and statistically across populations. There is no reason gender outcomes should be equal in all, or even most, cases. Your argument is that there exists a _global_ system disciriminating against race and gender?

krapp 8y ago
It's not my premise. I can accept the latter can be reasonably argued, but that systemic gender bias doesn't even exist? >>If anything, the global rise in populism, anti-feminist and anti immigrant sentiment points to the opposite trend. >I am not aware of any such sentiments. Have any data points? You want me to provide "data points" on populism, the alt-right, MRAs and neo-reactionists, the xenophobia resulting from Syrian refugees into Europe and Mexican immigrants into the US, the narrative of the rural white male feeling isolated and alienated by a multicultural society which apparently led to Trump's election, and that campaign's unprecedented support by white nationalists? No, I'm not wasting my time litigating that. If you've been completely unaware of the existence of these social and political trends, you can do your own research. At this point that's like asking someone to first prove the that the earth is round before they'll even discuss transportation safety. I can tell this is not going to lead anywhere constructive, so I'm bowing out.

krapp 8y ago

It's not my premise. I can accept the latter can be reasonably argued, but that systemic gender bias doesn't even exist? >>If anything, the global rise in populism, anti-feminist and anti immigrant sentiment points to the opposite trend. >I am not aware of any such sentiments. Have any data points? You want me to provide "data points" on populism, the alt-right, MRAs and neo-reactionists, the xenophobia resulting from Syrian refugees into Europe and Mexican immigrants into the US, the narrative of the rural white male feeling isolated and alienated by a multicultural society which apparently led to Trump's election, and that campaign's unprecedented support by white nationalists? No, I'm not wasting my time litigating that. If you've been completely unaware of the existence of these social and political trends, you can do your own research. At this point that's like asking someone to first prove the that the earth is round before they'll even discuss transportation safety. I can tell this is not going to lead anywhere constructive, so I'm bowing out.