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Mobile First Web Second (continued)

11 points by matthewphiong 16y ago

ThomPete 16y ago
I love mobile as much as every other geek out there. I have them all, iphone, ipad, android, laptops etc. It's fantastic and wonderful and all that. But there is a certain amount of echo chamber to all this talk about mobile. Yes it's one of the most important areas out there and especially for consumer oriented location aware stuff. But not all of us can do our jobs, just by answering emails. So perhaps the principle should really be product first, platform second.
- petervandijck 16y ago
  It's more of a product design/user experience thing. Designing for mobile first (small screen etc, limited input controls etc.) and then moving to web is much easier than doing it the other way around.
  - ThomPete 16y ago
    But that obviously depends on what you are doing. Not all products are 4Square. And often mobile is an extension of the core product not the product itself.
    - trezor 16y ago
      And often mobile is an extension of the core product not the product itself. While this is true and you do have a point, the reason for this may is not always obvious. Sometimes it makes sense for mobile to be an extension of the core product. Other times mobile is an extension of the core product because redesigning for mobile turned out to be a bigger task than anticipated because the product was not designed for mobile in the first place. Not saying I agree that you should always do mobile first, but just pointing out that both of you may be right at the same time.
    - petervandijck 16y ago
      Yes, but 1. more and more, mobile is becoming the product itself, and 2. even if it's not, it's still helpful (from a UX perspective) to do mobile first. For me it's been helpful to try mobile first, even when it's not the core product.
      - ThomPete 16y ago
        I don't think mobile is becoming the product itself more and more. It's just that mobile allow for new kinds of products. But that does not mean that mobile will take over everything.
buro9 16y ago
API first. Mobile or Web second (depends on where your market is). Whatever you still need to do third.

11 points by matthewphiong 16y ago

I love mobile as much as every other geek out there. I have them all, iphone, ipad, android, laptops etc. It's fantastic and wonderful and all that. But there is a certain amount of echo chamber to all this talk about mobile. Yes it's one of the most important areas out there and especially for consumer oriented location aware stuff. But not all of us can do our jobs, just by answering emails. So perhaps the principle should really be product first, platform second.

petervandijck 16y ago
It's more of a product design/user experience thing. Designing for mobile first (small screen etc, limited input controls etc.) and then moving to web is much easier than doing it the other way around.
- ThomPete 16y ago
  But that obviously depends on what you are doing. Not all products are 4Square. And often mobile is an extension of the core product not the product itself.
  - trezor 16y ago
    And often mobile is an extension of the core product not the product itself. While this is true and you do have a point, the reason for this may is not always obvious. Sometimes it makes sense for mobile to be an extension of the core product. Other times mobile is an extension of the core product because redesigning for mobile turned out to be a bigger task than anticipated because the product was not designed for mobile in the first place. Not saying I agree that you should always do mobile first, but just pointing out that both of you may be right at the same time.
  - petervandijck 16y ago
    Yes, but 1. more and more, mobile is becoming the product itself, and 2. even if it's not, it's still helpful (from a UX perspective) to do mobile first. For me it's been helpful to try mobile first, even when it's not the core product.
    - ThomPete 16y ago
      I don't think mobile is becoming the product itself more and more. It's just that mobile allow for new kinds of products. But that does not mean that mobile will take over everything.

buro9 16y ago

API first. Mobile or Web second (depends on where your market is). Whatever you still need to do third.