3 ms·

> Take, for example, the evergreen state college Why take that as an example? That college is hardly mainstream even for liberals, it's at the extreme end of

by Zimahl 8y ago

> Take, for example, the evergreen state college Why take that as an example? That college is hardly mainstream even for liberals, it's at the extreme end of liberal institutions. When weird shit happens there the only ones who care are people who just need a counter-argument to their terrible point.

0815test 8y ago
When weird sh!t happens at the extreme end of liberal/conservative institutions, it tends to spread to the nominally-not-so-extreme liberal/conservative institutions. Evergreen may well be a leading indicator.
- Zimahl 8y ago
  It's not. TESC has been this way for a long time, it's nothing new to the people of WA. I'm 42 and went to a public university in the state, we all knew what TESC was back then, everyone who went there and goes there knows what they are getting in to. It's certainly not shaping attitudes at other universities.
  - 0815test 8y ago
    And this would be entirely convincing, were we living in 'normal' times in the first place. But the whole point that Haidt's article is drawing from is that the level of political factionalization nation-wide is quite unprecedented, at least in recent memory. For freak's sake, Donald Trump is POTUS in case you haven't noticed! Something that The Simpsons used to joke about as obviously crazy and ludicrous! People like to talk about the toxic tendencies on the left (the so-called "SJW's"), but that's hardly the one and only sort of craziness we're experiencing nowadays.
    - kryogen1c 8y ago
      > And this would be entirely convincing, were we living in 'normal' times in the first place. To further debunk the "business as usual" argument, take a look a TESC enrollment numbers since the controversy from their own website: https://www.evergreen.edu/sites/default/files/Admission%20HX%2082-18.pdf https://www.evergreen.edu/sites/default/files/Admission%20HX... I dont know if "freefall" is exactly accurate, but theyre down like 40% from 2017 to 2018

by Zimahl 8y ago

0815test 8y ago

When weird sh!t happens at the extreme end of liberal/conservative institutions, it tends to spread to the nominally-not-so-extreme liberal/conservative institutions. Evergreen may well be a leading indicator.

Zimahl 8y ago
It's not. TESC has been this way for a long time, it's nothing new to the people of WA. I'm 42 and went to a public university in the state, we all knew what TESC was back then, everyone who went there and goes there knows what they are getting in to. It's certainly not shaping attitudes at other universities.
- 0815test 8y ago
  And this would be entirely convincing, were we living in 'normal' times in the first place. But the whole point that Haidt's article is drawing from is that the level of political factionalization nation-wide is quite unprecedented, at least in recent memory. For freak's sake, Donald Trump is POTUS in case you haven't noticed! Something that The Simpsons used to joke about as obviously crazy and ludicrous! People like to talk about the toxic tendencies on the left (the so-called "SJW's"), but that's hardly the one and only sort of craziness we're experiencing nowadays.
  - kryogen1c 8y ago
    > And this would be entirely convincing, were we living in 'normal' times in the first place. To further debunk the "business as usual" argument, take a look a TESC enrollment numbers since the controversy from their own website: https://www.evergreen.edu/sites/default/files/Admission%20HX%2082-18.pdf https://www.evergreen.edu/sites/default/files/Admission%20HX... I dont know if "freefall" is exactly accurate, but theyre down like 40% from 2017 to 2018