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I wouldn't depend on Google for anything. Maybe self-hosting needs to be made easier for the average person? The web has so much bandwidth now that there's no

I wouldn't depend on Google for anything. Maybe self-hosting needs to be made easier for the average person? The web has so much bandwidth now that there's no reason outside of potential security issues that people can't be posting more of their own stuff(like a web).

scarmig 8y ago
It's far easier, more scalable, and more secure now than it's ever been, and people quite simply don't want it. I wish it weren't so, but people prefer staying inside walled gardens to homesteading.
- ravenstine 8y ago
  They do, but I think there's some potential demand for it. For instance, I want to be able to host my own files without having to make some sort of deal with my ISP. Although I've never had a problem serving requests directly from my computer, it's usually against the rules of ISPs. With a regular internet connection, I should be able to more easily store files on my own hardware and be able to share them with people as easily as I could with Instagram. Maybe there could even be an always-on hardware device that integrates in an open way with third parties that can serve those files, but ultimately those files live on that hardware and can be designated their own domains for URL resolution. Peer-to-peer and Cloudflare support could come with it out-of-the-box to mitigate load issues. Meh, maybe nobody wants anything like that. I still like the idea.
  - vkou 8y ago
    I want something like that, but if I'm asked to shell out $50 for a box that does what I can do on Imgur/Instagram/Photos for free, I'm going to turn my nose on it. With 99% of the images I want to share on the web - I don't really care if they aren't going to be around in five months time. Also, what if the vendor of the box (That handles the integrations with third-party hosts) goes out of business? Am I going to now have to figure out how to hack my hardware to be allowed to talk to <Whatever the new image hosting service> is? This is an inescapable rabbit hole of third-party dependencies.
Y_Y 8y ago
Self-hosting has become shamefully easy now with Docker Hub and cheap VPSen in the "cloud". It really is a one-liner to spin up a new service on your server nowadays.
- konschubert 8y ago
  If you know what a console is.
  - stuartd 8y ago
    And you have a server.
    - bduerst 8y ago
      And have a domain name
      - ex3ndr 8y ago
        And backups
        mattlondon 8y ago
        And time to apply security updates frequently and promptly.
        acutesoftware 8y ago
        and a credit card to pay monthly fees (which may or may not increase dramatically)
- pizza 8y ago
  I mean, it is a one-liner, but only if you know what to do with that line -- linking to a URL in a message or putting a URL in the URL bar is the most complex one-liner you can reasonably require non-tech types to do, in my experience. Technology that aims to serve that audience should be reasonably usable for that audience.
emanuensis 8y ago
i have the additional requirement that it survives my death ... which rules out anything one has to pay for, or ping every x months, and self hosting (even ones house disappears on ones death). The solution i have found so far is GitHub Pages. It seems the website, though static, can be arbitrarily deep and large.

scarmig 8y ago

It's far easier, more scalable, and more secure now than it's ever been, and people quite simply don't want it. I wish it weren't so, but people prefer staying inside walled gardens to homesteading.

ravenstine 8y ago
They do, but I think there's some potential demand for it. For instance, I want to be able to host my own files without having to make some sort of deal with my ISP. Although I've never had a problem serving requests directly from my computer, it's usually against the rules of ISPs. With a regular internet connection, I should be able to more easily store files on my own hardware and be able to share them with people as easily as I could with Instagram. Maybe there could even be an always-on hardware device that integrates in an open way with third parties that can serve those files, but ultimately those files live on that hardware and can be designated their own domains for URL resolution. Peer-to-peer and Cloudflare support could come with it out-of-the-box to mitigate load issues. Meh, maybe nobody wants anything like that. I still like the idea.
- vkou 8y ago
  I want something like that, but if I'm asked to shell out $50 for a box that does what I can do on Imgur/Instagram/Photos for free, I'm going to turn my nose on it. With 99% of the images I want to share on the web - I don't really care if they aren't going to be around in five months time. Also, what if the vendor of the box (That handles the integrations with third-party hosts) goes out of business? Am I going to now have to figure out how to hack my hardware to be allowed to talk to <Whatever the new image hosting service> is? This is an inescapable rabbit hole of third-party dependencies.

Y_Y 8y ago

Self-hosting has become shamefully easy now with Docker Hub and cheap VPSen in the "cloud". It really is a one-liner to spin up a new service on your server nowadays.

konschubert 8y ago
If you know what a console is.
- stuartd 8y ago
  And you have a server.
  - bduerst 8y ago
    And have a domain name
    - ex3ndr 8y ago
      And backups
      - mattlondon 8y ago
        And time to apply security updates frequently and promptly.
        acutesoftware 8y ago
        and a credit card to pay monthly fees (which may or may not increase dramatically)
pizza 8y ago
I mean, it is a one-liner, but only if you know what to do with that line -- linking to a URL in a message or putting a URL in the URL bar is the most complex one-liner you can reasonably require non-tech types to do, in my experience. Technology that aims to serve that audience should be reasonably usable for that audience.

emanuensis 8y ago

i have the additional requirement that it survives my death ... which rules out anything one has to pay for, or ping every x months, and self hosting (even ones house disappears on ones death). The solution i have found so far is GitHub Pages. It seems the website, though static, can be arbitrarily deep and large.