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I believe that one of the reason is lack of good web-applications framework for quick development. There is nothing like django or rails, so if you need to hav
by yatsyk 16y ago
I believe that one of the reason is lack of good web-applications framework for quick development. There is nothing like django or rails, so if you need to have non-trivial application created in minimum time java is not the best platform.
In case when your team consists of plenty different skill level developers java is much safer platform.
Performance of the application and hosting is not a problem.
Hosting of java application usually is much easier than everything else and performance of jvm very good comparing to other platforms.
- _grrr 16y agoYes there is: grails.
- yatsyk 16y agoI believe that Veera means java as a language but not jvm as a platform because a lot of startups use jruby and closure for their applications.
- scalyweb 16y agoI used to think so as well but now there is a great framework called Play: http://www.playframework.org/ http://www.playframework.org/
- yatsyk 16y agoIt would be nice if this framework get more traction
- trigger 16y agoJRebel is worth a look for a similar experience. It reloads classes when they change so no server restarts required. http://www.zeroturnaround.com/jrebel/ http://www.zeroturnaround.com/jrebel/
- madewulf 16y agoThe problem with frameworks like Play, or Symfony in PHP world is that they only play catchup to frameworks like ROR and Django and since they started way later, they still lack the polish.
- Egregore 16y agoWhy is this a problem? They will tend to choose to implement only the best practices. For example my (I'll admit biased) experience with play framework was better than with RoR and with Django.
- zeemonkee 16y agoOr alternatively, they learn from the problems of older frameworks, and can bring a fresh approach without having to worry so much about backward compatibility.
- jonah 16y agoThere are lots of great frameworks for ColdFusion/Railo.
- yatsyk 16y agoColdFusion is not associated with fun development, may be I'm wrong, but for me it is associated with plenty of config xmls and other enterpricy stuff.
- jonah 16y agoMaybe it's been a while? Check out http://www.coldboxframework.com/ http://www.coldboxframework.com/ or http://fw1.riaforge.org/ http://fw1.riaforge.org/ as examples of the state of things these days.
- eapen 16y agoYep, Coldfusion is overly underestimated. It now supports script based syntax (similar to Java) and has a tonne of built-in useful functionality like Ehcache and more...
- jalpino 16y agoBeen using CF for 10 years, Java for 5. CF is a great bridge from the functionality and performance of Java with the ease and natural fit of a loosely typed language when building for the web. CF and it's community is not the same beast it used to be, I would encourage you and others to take a second look.