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This lacks several points from being conclusive: - it describes only "peak hour, drive alone commuters" without apportioning the fraction of total pollution ca

This lacks several points from being conclusive: - it describes only "peak hour, drive alone commuters" without apportioning the fraction of total pollution caused by that group. - How much does evening peak rush-hour pollution affect school-day air quality? (morning peak would probably have a direct effect) - by dealing with averages, it obscures the distribution - it could be that the majority of the pollution is caused by lower-income commuters driving older vehicles, but Tesla-driving higher income commuters drive up the average income - it assumes that the money paid for the pollution somehow belongs to the students, when it is apportioned from the tax dollars paid that fund the school district budget. Maybe those dollars already come from the high-income commuters. - it brings in race purely to add to the emotional content of the narrative If you disagree, please describe why you find this narrative rationally compelling.

grigjd3 8y ago
So at least one of your points seems to be a triviality after a basic Google search. 85% of vehicles on the road are single occupancy: www.thealternativedaily.com/why-ridesharing-matters Your questions may be valid, but assuming there are not answers to those questions probably is not valid. I mean, it would not exactly shock me to learn that peak traffic is representative of most of the day, or that peak traffic is responsible for most of the pollution. It would also not shock me to learn that income distribution by neighborhood doesn't see much variance. I suspect if I looked this stuff up, like I did on single occupancy vehicles, I could cut your points down to nothing.
- ryanwaggoner 8y ago
  Hmm, not sure this is the best debate strategy: "I destroyed one of your points, and I could foresee myself doing the same with the others if I bothered to answer them. Therefore it's invalid for you to raise these questions." I'd also point out that you didn't actually address any of the questions listed. A general study about American vehicles as a whole being single occupancy doesn't imply much of anything about this particular case, hence "by dealing with averages, it obscures the distribution", which you demonstrated with your response, rather than undermined.
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grigjd3 8y ago

So at least one of your points seems to be a triviality after a basic Google search. 85% of vehicles on the road are single occupancy: www.thealternativedaily.com/why-ridesharing-matters Your questions may be valid, but assuming there are not answers to those questions probably is not valid. I mean, it would not exactly shock me to learn that peak traffic is representative of most of the day, or that peak traffic is responsible for most of the pollution. It would also not shock me to learn that income distribution by neighborhood doesn't see much variance. I suspect if I looked this stuff up, like I did on single occupancy vehicles, I could cut your points down to nothing.

ryanwaggoner 8y ago
Hmm, not sure this is the best debate strategy: "I destroyed one of your points, and I could foresee myself doing the same with the others if I bothered to answer them. Therefore it's invalid for you to raise these questions." I'd also point out that you didn't actually address any of the questions listed. A general study about American vehicles as a whole being single occupancy doesn't imply much of anything about this particular case, hence "by dealing with averages, it obscures the distribution", which you demonstrated with your response, rather than undermined.
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