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It's terrifying. Free speech should not be infringed upon. This is obviously happening more and more. High profile cases like journalists and activists caught
by wallace_f 8y ago
It's terrifying. Free speech should not be infringed upon.
This is obviously happening more and more. High profile cases like journalists and activists caught up in association with Snowden, like Greenwald, Poitras and Lavabit's founder... Are probably known to most here. But I wonder if most are aware even a journalist covering the dakota pipeline protests was detained by the US government(1).
1-https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/02/business/media/canadian-journalists-detention-at-us-border-raises-press-freedom-alarms.html https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/02/business/media/canadian-j...
- FlatSunSociety 8y agoTerrible indeed, I didn't know of this case, thanks for sharing. Regarding the caravan case you can at least try to bury it under international politics/border security. But to detain a journalist that has been covering Dakota pipeline is restricting the freedom of speech for pure economical reasons.
- wallace_f 8y agoI think they tried some vague excuse that had something to do with him having travelled to the Middle East in the past. So if you want to retain your civil rights in America, you either can't cover protests, or can't travel to the Middle East. Or both. Anyways, who on earth is downvoting my parent comment??
- 18pfsmt 8y agoI wonder if that might have to do with foreign influence being involved with the protests? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2018/03/01/congress-russians-trolls-sought-to-inflame-u-s-debate-on-climate-change-fracking-and-dakota-pipeline/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2018/03/01...
- boomboomsubban 8y agoNo, it doesn't. Not only was that "influence" so minor to have had basically no impact, the posts were made months after the detention.
- viivaux 8y agoPretty ballsy of the WaPo to suggest such a thing, considering their utter lack of interest in the heinous acts carried out there at the time.
- viivaux 8y agoSilently downvote away, cowards: but the refusal of all mainstream media to cover the protest at the time, despite the spraying of water cannons at protestors in freezing conditions, the use of Stingray tech, and other super dodgy shit is a sold and undeniable fact.
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