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Journalists are often harrassed when they dig into things the powerful want to leave burried. https://sharylattkisson.com/new-update-attkisson-v-doj-and-fbi-fo

Journalists are often harrassed when they dig into things the powerful want to leave burried. https://sharylattkisson.com/new-update-attkisson-v-doj-and-fbi-for-govt-computer-intrusions/ https://sharylattkisson.com/new-update-attkisson-v-doj-and-f... https://cpj.org/asia/china/ https://cpj.org/asia/china/

AnIdiotOnTheNet 8y ago
It's like a video game, if there are obstacles in your path then you're heading in the right direction.
- CamelCaseName 8y ago
  Who is the obstacle, the wealthy or the journalist?
  - atomi 8y ago
    If you're attempting to keep facts from becoming public knowledge you are acting against the public good.
    - CamelCaseName 8y ago
      My point is, "It's like a video game, if there are obstacles in your path then you're heading in the right direction" read from the perspective of a person crushing journalists implies that they are going in the "right direction", as the journalists are just obstacles they need to clear in their crusade for power/wealth.
    - stirfrykitty 8y ago
      This reminds me of the notion of "samizdat" during the cold war times, but still happening now in various countries, particularly China, Vietnam, North Korea, et al. The people in control want zero accountability despite what they may say. Power corrupts people and once they experience it, they want more. I know people from China, and they, to a person, say where they came from is a hideous form of life. They could say nothing. The father of this family will not return, ever. If he does, he stands to be arrested for what basically amounts to "thought crimes". This man has explained to me so many things about the facets of life in China. From filial piety, to how Confucianiam/Legalism is the thought process of everyone in power. He was saying that the current Chinese leader is in love with the writings and legalist thought of Han Fei Zi and Shang Yang, and these two ancient philosphers inform his current thinking strategies. Even the new social credit system stems from this thinking of rewarding people for being "good" and even being a prefect for the state for additional "rewards". China is now offering bounties to people who turn in their neighbors for looking at porn. I believe the going rate for a turn in and subsequent conviction is $86k. I pray nothing like this comes to the west.
      - cheeko1234 8y ago
        Any sources on the bounty statement?
        stirfrykitty 8y ago
        https://www.inquisitr.com/5165845/china-to-give-cash-rewards-up-to-86400-to-people-who-report-porn-to-authorities/ https://www.inquisitr.com/5165845/china-to-give-cash-rewards... https://nextshark.com/china-porn-rewards-citizens/ https://nextshark.com/china-porn-rewards-citizens/ And official Chinese state report (run translator) http://www.shdf.gov.cn/shdf/contents/767/388903.html http://www.shdf.gov.cn/shdf/contents/767/388903.html
18pfsmt 8y ago
Sharyl Attkisson, the person interviewing Jerome Corsi, author of Killing the Deep State: The Fight to Save President Trump in this interview? https://www.c-span.org/video/?442260-1/after-words-jerome-corsi https://www.c-span.org/video/?442260-1/after-words-jerome-co... Or how about this: "Citizens United’s David Bossie and former Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski argued that Washington bureaucrats are seeking to undermine the presidency of Donald Trump." https://www.c-span.org/video/?454330-1/after-words-david-bossie-corey-lewandowski https://www.c-span.org/video/?454330-1/after-words-david-bos... Sorry, if I find Atkisson a dubious source of information.
- SlowRobotAhead 8y ago
  >Sorry, if I find Atkisson a dubious source of information. Your problem with Atikisson is she interviewed people you disagree with? Atkinson who was illegally spied on by Obama admin, has been excellent in doing real journalism. Her TED talks about fakenews and media bias are excellent. Lara Logan, Tim Pool, Atiksson, and maybe 10 others have shown they can put their biases aside and do work. It’s a sad state of journalism right now, but even sadder that even acknowledging other people give some consumers a “dubious” impression.
  - 18pfsmt 8y ago
    I linked to the interviews, so you could watch for yourself. I don't exactly have time to re-watch, transcribe, and fact check for you, but I could probably spend some time this evening, if that interests you. She never pushes back on any claim made, no matter how ludicrous.
- codezero 8y ago
  Are you saying that if a journalist interviews a controversial figure they lose credibility? Was there something about those interviews that made you determine she is dubious?
  - 18pfsmt 8y ago
    Watch the interviews. She does not call them out, no matter how ridiculous or unsubstantiated the claims being made are. It's utterly ridiculous. An interviewer is supposed to push back when claims are made that contradict reality. Chris Wallace's interview with Stephen Miller for how it's done.
specialist 8y ago
I did election integrity activism stuff for a while. Embarrassing the powers that be, pointing out the emperor has no clothes. Had some minor victories. I assumed I was gonna be harassed, maybe even spend time in jail. Not entirely sure why I was spared. Worst I got was called names by the local press, politicians.
Taylor_OD 8y ago
I feel like there's a large delta between lazy shitty journalism that is pumped out for news websites and real investigative journalism that is incredibly eye-opening and insightful.

AnIdiotOnTheNet 8y ago

It's like a video game, if there are obstacles in your path then you're heading in the right direction.

CamelCaseName 8y ago
Who is the obstacle, the wealthy or the journalist?
- atomi 8y ago
  If you're attempting to keep facts from becoming public knowledge you are acting against the public good.
  - CamelCaseName 8y ago
    My point is, "It's like a video game, if there are obstacles in your path then you're heading in the right direction" read from the perspective of a person crushing journalists implies that they are going in the "right direction", as the journalists are just obstacles they need to clear in their crusade for power/wealth.
  - stirfrykitty 8y ago
    This reminds me of the notion of "samizdat" during the cold war times, but still happening now in various countries, particularly China, Vietnam, North Korea, et al. The people in control want zero accountability despite what they may say. Power corrupts people and once they experience it, they want more. I know people from China, and they, to a person, say where they came from is a hideous form of life. They could say nothing. The father of this family will not return, ever. If he does, he stands to be arrested for what basically amounts to "thought crimes". This man has explained to me so many things about the facets of life in China. From filial piety, to how Confucianiam/Legalism is the thought process of everyone in power. He was saying that the current Chinese leader is in love with the writings and legalist thought of Han Fei Zi and Shang Yang, and these two ancient philosphers inform his current thinking strategies. Even the new social credit system stems from this thinking of rewarding people for being "good" and even being a prefect for the state for additional "rewards". China is now offering bounties to people who turn in their neighbors for looking at porn. I believe the going rate for a turn in and subsequent conviction is $86k. I pray nothing like this comes to the west.
    - cheeko1234 8y ago
      Any sources on the bounty statement?
      - stirfrykitty 8y ago
        https://www.inquisitr.com/5165845/china-to-give-cash-rewards-up-to-86400-to-people-who-report-porn-to-authorities/ https://www.inquisitr.com/5165845/china-to-give-cash-rewards... https://nextshark.com/china-porn-rewards-citizens/ https://nextshark.com/china-porn-rewards-citizens/ And official Chinese state report (run translator) http://www.shdf.gov.cn/shdf/contents/767/388903.html http://www.shdf.gov.cn/shdf/contents/767/388903.html

18pfsmt 8y ago

Sharyl Attkisson, the person interviewing Jerome Corsi, author of Killing the Deep State: The Fight to Save President Trump in this interview? https://www.c-span.org/video/?442260-1/after-words-jerome-corsi https://www.c-span.org/video/?442260-1/after-words-jerome-co... Or how about this: "Citizens United’s David Bossie and former Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski argued that Washington bureaucrats are seeking to undermine the presidency of Donald Trump." https://www.c-span.org/video/?454330-1/after-words-david-bossie-corey-lewandowski https://www.c-span.org/video/?454330-1/after-words-david-bos... Sorry, if I find Atkisson a dubious source of information.

SlowRobotAhead 8y ago
>Sorry, if I find Atkisson a dubious source of information. Your problem with Atikisson is she interviewed people you disagree with? Atkinson who was illegally spied on by Obama admin, has been excellent in doing real journalism. Her TED talks about fakenews and media bias are excellent. Lara Logan, Tim Pool, Atiksson, and maybe 10 others have shown they can put their biases aside and do work. It’s a sad state of journalism right now, but even sadder that even acknowledging other people give some consumers a “dubious” impression.
- 18pfsmt 8y ago
  I linked to the interviews, so you could watch for yourself. I don't exactly have time to re-watch, transcribe, and fact check for you, but I could probably spend some time this evening, if that interests you. She never pushes back on any claim made, no matter how ludicrous.
codezero 8y ago
Are you saying that if a journalist interviews a controversial figure they lose credibility? Was there something about those interviews that made you determine she is dubious?
- 18pfsmt 8y ago
  Watch the interviews. She does not call them out, no matter how ridiculous or unsubstantiated the claims being made are. It's utterly ridiculous. An interviewer is supposed to push back when claims are made that contradict reality. Chris Wallace's interview with Stephen Miller for how it's done.

specialist 8y ago

I did election integrity activism stuff for a while. Embarrassing the powers that be, pointing out the emperor has no clothes. Had some minor victories. I assumed I was gonna be harassed, maybe even spend time in jail. Not entirely sure why I was spared. Worst I got was called names by the local press, politicians.

Taylor_OD 8y ago

I feel like there's a large delta between lazy shitty journalism that is pumped out for news websites and real investigative journalism that is incredibly eye-opening and insightful.