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For now, I can't imagine my next car being anything but a Tesla.

andrewmunsell 8y ago
I have an i3 now and after my lease is up, I will absolutely either get a Model 3 or Y. There's just no other electric car comparable that will allow you to road-trip without worrying about charger access.
- mixmastamyk 8y ago
  Is privacy an option yet?
  - scarlac 8y ago
    You'd have to be more specific than that. You can disable data sharing if you prefer.
    - natch 8y ago
      "Data sharing" is pretty vague but assuming you are talking about car data, it's completely decoupled from the VIN or any other identifiers that could ID you, so disabling it is just silly, but yes you can choose to not opt in.
      - oarsinsync 8y ago
        Does "car data" include locations? There's not many people that start from area A (~500m^2 around your home) and go to area Z (~500m^2 around your office) every weekday morning, and back again every weekday evening. And yep, this applies to anything that offers vague rudimentary location monitoring.
        mixmastamyk 8y ago
        Correct, many folks don’t realize how much can be derived about them from even anonymous data. Personally not interested in all this auto pilot stuff anyway. Deceleration when approaching an object and rudimentary lane assist are all I’d care for and shouldn’t require machine learning.
        goshx 8y ago
        It does include location if you stop at a supercharger. They need to know where you were in order to charge you properly. I don't think that's one you could opt-out.
        mixmastamyk 8y ago
        > They need to know where you were in order to charge you properly. Not sure why that would be true. Perhaps it can help them a tiny bit, but not worth my privacy.
        FireBeyond 8y ago
        Yup. Give me your rough starting location and ending location, one inbound phone number and one outbound and you can probably be uniquely identified.
      - okmokmz 8y ago
        >it's completely decoupled from the VIN or any other identifiers that could ID you Anonymized data isn't really anonymous https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170803/14480037916/once-again-with-feeling-anonymized-data-isnt-really-anonymous.shtml https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170803/14480037916/once-... https://www.networkworld.com/article/2185458/microsoft-researchers-say-anonymized-data-isn-t-so-anonymous.html https://www.networkworld.com/article/2185458/microsoft-resea... https://www.wired.com/2007/12/why-anonymous-data-sometimes-isnt/ https://www.wired.com/2007/12/why-anonymous-data-sometimes-i... https://dataprivacylab.org/projects/identifiability/paper1.pdf https://dataprivacylab.org/projects/identifiability/paper1.p... https://www.fastcompany.com/90278465/sorry-your-data-can-still-be-identified-even-its-anonymized https://www.fastcompany.com/90278465/sorry-your-data-can-sti...
tdfx 8y ago
I'm waiting for the electric self-driving RV. Who needs a house?
- meggar 8y ago
  Interesting, so your house drops you off at work, and then picks you up later.
  - EADGBE 8y ago
    We'll probably see this before we see mass adoption of remote work.
  - tdfx 8y ago
    My hope is that your mobile bedroom/living room/office drives around and plugs into shared, communal kitchen/laundry/exercise/living room areas. You do your work during the transit portion and spend your free time enjoying the destinations and other people.
- m463 8y ago
  An electric RV would be quite interesting. Cover the roof with solar panels (say 40' x 8' = 10 x 500w panels = 5000 watts of electricity). 8h x 5kw = 40kwh. If the battery pack was a 1000d, you could move with a full charge once a month for free. Or you could use it for living too (fridge, range, etc)

I have an i3 now and after my lease is up, I will absolutely either get a Model 3 or Y. There's just no other electric car comparable that will allow you to road-trip without worrying about charger access.

mixmastamyk 8y ago
Is privacy an option yet?
- scarlac 8y ago
  You'd have to be more specific than that. You can disable data sharing if you prefer.
  - natch 8y ago
    "Data sharing" is pretty vague but assuming you are talking about car data, it's completely decoupled from the VIN or any other identifiers that could ID you, so disabling it is just silly, but yes you can choose to not opt in.
    - oarsinsync 8y ago
      Does "car data" include locations? There's not many people that start from area A (~500m^2 around your home) and go to area Z (~500m^2 around your office) every weekday morning, and back again every weekday evening. And yep, this applies to anything that offers vague rudimentary location monitoring.
      - mixmastamyk 8y ago
        Correct, many folks don’t realize how much can be derived about them from even anonymous data. Personally not interested in all this auto pilot stuff anyway. Deceleration when approaching an object and rudimentary lane assist are all I’d care for and shouldn’t require machine learning.
      - goshx 8y ago
        It does include location if you stop at a supercharger. They need to know where you were in order to charge you properly. I don't think that's one you could opt-out.
        mixmastamyk 8y ago
        > They need to know where you were in order to charge you properly. Not sure why that would be true. Perhaps it can help them a tiny bit, but not worth my privacy.
      - FireBeyond 8y ago
        Yup. Give me your rough starting location and ending location, one inbound phone number and one outbound and you can probably be uniquely identified.
    - okmokmz 8y ago
      >it's completely decoupled from the VIN or any other identifiers that could ID you Anonymized data isn't really anonymous https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170803/14480037916/once-again-with-feeling-anonymized-data-isnt-really-anonymous.shtml https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170803/14480037916/once-... https://www.networkworld.com/article/2185458/microsoft-researchers-say-anonymized-data-isn-t-so-anonymous.html https://www.networkworld.com/article/2185458/microsoft-resea... https://www.wired.com/2007/12/why-anonymous-data-sometimes-isnt/ https://www.wired.com/2007/12/why-anonymous-data-sometimes-i... https://dataprivacylab.org/projects/identifiability/paper1.pdf https://dataprivacylab.org/projects/identifiability/paper1.p... https://www.fastcompany.com/90278465/sorry-your-data-can-still-be-identified-even-its-anonymized https://www.fastcompany.com/90278465/sorry-your-data-can-sti...

tdfx 8y ago

I'm waiting for the electric self-driving RV. Who needs a house?

meggar 8y ago
Interesting, so your house drops you off at work, and then picks you up later.
- EADGBE 8y ago
  We'll probably see this before we see mass adoption of remote work.
- tdfx 8y ago
  My hope is that your mobile bedroom/living room/office drives around and plugs into shared, communal kitchen/laundry/exercise/living room areas. You do your work during the transit portion and spend your free time enjoying the destinations and other people.
m463 8y ago
An electric RV would be quite interesting. Cover the roof with solar panels (say 40' x 8' = 10 x 500w panels = 5000 watts of electricity). 8h x 5kw = 40kwh. If the battery pack was a 1000d, you could move with a full charge once a month for free. Or you could use it for living too (fridge, range, etc)