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Ginny Messina, who is a dietitian and actually has some qualifications to talk about this stuff, wrote a great response to this blog post - http://www.theveganr

• burgerbrain 16y ago
  >That doesn’t mean I think she has made any of this up. She has an awfully weird way of expressing this. The first few paragraphs of her post are dedicated to implying as hard as she can that this blog post is some sort of meat industry propaganda. For example: >There is so much that is eerily parallel in these stories—not just the vague descriptions of the health-related experiences but also the evolving philosophy regarding food justice, and some very, very similar language.
  • autarch 16y ago
    I think Ginny's saying that the the author of the blog post is simply echoing things she read elsewhere. That doesn't mean it's some sort of propaganda effort on the part of the blog poster.
    • burgerbrain 16y ago
      I think that's definitely how she's trying to spin it "officially", but her actual intent is pretty clear. >I have to admit I’m always a little suspicious when an ex-vegan dives headlong into a love affair with meat. I mean come on, what else is that supposed to mean? Is she "suspicious" that the author is simply echoing a new-found respect for meat? That doesn't even make sense.
      • autarch 16y ago
        Sheesh, you really love your conspiracy theories. Ginny's post is primarily about debunking the ridiculous health claims in the original post. She's "suspicious" of the claims because they're ridiculous, and the amount of fervor that Tasha shows suggests that there's something going on besides nutrition.
        • burgerbrain 16y ago
          It's a conspiracy theory to suggest that others are seeing conspiracies where there are none? Man you people are nuts.
          • autarch 16y ago
            You're saying that Ginny is suggesting a conspiracy, when she isn't. That's all I'm saying.
• jacquesm 16y ago
  I think she misses out on that people need to justify stuff for themselves and those that do this justification loudly (for others to hear) are going to persist in that pattern no matter what their decisions. Personally I think that being a vegan, vegetarian or omnivore is an entirely personal thing and you don't need to blast it out like that. Also so that you can change your mind without having to do mental double takes like that.
  • autarch 16y ago
    I don't think Ginny's missing that at all. In fact, I think that's her main point, that Tasha's entire post is a post-facto attempt to rationalize a decision made for non-rational reasons.
    • jacquesm 16y ago
      Yes, but my point is that Ginny was not going after her when she was still rooting for 'her' team, probably for all the wrong reasons as well. Ginny's post comes off as a very effective smear job against a 'former believer'.
      • autarch 16y ago
        Ginny is pretty consistent about promoting good science and criticizing the bad. For example, in a blog post on "7 Ways to Encourage and Support New Vegans" (http://www.theveganrd.com/2010/08/7-ways-to-encourage-and-support-new-vegans.html http://www.theveganrd.com/2010/08/7-ways-to-encourage-and-su...), she says: Be honest about nutrition. It’s pretty unlikely that a vegan diet is the only healthy way to eat and we will always get backed into a corner if we say that it is. Likewise, some nutrients are harder to come by on a vegan diet. If we dismiss nutrition issues, we run the risk that some vegans won’t thrive, which is bad for them and bad for veganism I don't think she has time to address every blog post by every uninformed person (vegan or anti-vegan) on the web, unfortunately.