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>Apps need it to determine where to place elements. This determination can't be done client-side? In other words, if I resize the window, it's going to send th

>Apps need it to determine where to place elements. This determination can't be done client-side? In other words, if I resize the window, it's going to send the new size to determine where to place the elements in the "new" area?

tedunangst 8y ago
document.Write("<img src=width.png?" + document.innerWidth + ">")
- jancsika 8y ago
  That's a problem. The W3C should probably create a new, rich spec hundreds of pages long so that frontend developers may instead declare images as a unitless set of point relationships to be rendered at any resolution without digital artifacts. For example, instead of working on the pixel level, the developer would be free to simply declare, "an arc may exist in one of these four locations." Then, merely by declaring two further "flag" values, the developer can communicate to the renderer which three arcs not to draw, except for the edge case of no arc fitting the seven previously-declared constraints. Just imagine-- instead of a big wasteful gif for something as simple as an arc animation, the developer would simply declare, "can someone just give me the javascript to convert from arc center to svg's endpoint syntax?" And someone on Stackoverflow would eventually declare the relevant javascript.
  - tedunangst 8y ago
    The browser can also ship with a pretrained GAN, so the site just asks for a picture of a cat and then the GAN creates one as needed, but nobody will know exactly which cat you saw.
    - ringaroll 8y ago
      I can see where this is heading. LOL
    - adrianN 8y ago
      Now I want to train a GAN that takes images' alt text and reproduces the image.
    - pferde 8y ago
      That will be remembered as day when "Catwoman" went from being sexy to being weird and disgusting.
cimmanom 8y ago
Yes, but how do you keep the client from then sending that data to the server?
- beatgammit 8y ago
  You can't. Even if you block JavaScript, they can still get it from CSS media queries, where the can say which file to download given a certain screen size. The best solution is to use the same screen size as everyone else so you don't stand out. And that's what this does.
  - cimmanom 8y ago
    Right, that’s what I’m saying. Keeping the data client side as ggp suggests is not possible.

tedunangst 8y ago

document.Write("<img src=width.png?" + document.innerWidth + ">")

jancsika 8y ago
That's a problem. The W3C should probably create a new, rich spec hundreds of pages long so that frontend developers may instead declare images as a unitless set of point relationships to be rendered at any resolution without digital artifacts. For example, instead of working on the pixel level, the developer would be free to simply declare, "an arc may exist in one of these four locations." Then, merely by declaring two further "flag" values, the developer can communicate to the renderer which three arcs not to draw, except for the edge case of no arc fitting the seven previously-declared constraints. Just imagine-- instead of a big wasteful gif for something as simple as an arc animation, the developer would simply declare, "can someone just give me the javascript to convert from arc center to svg's endpoint syntax?" And someone on Stackoverflow would eventually declare the relevant javascript.
- tedunangst 8y ago
  The browser can also ship with a pretrained GAN, so the site just asks for a picture of a cat and then the GAN creates one as needed, but nobody will know exactly which cat you saw.
  - ringaroll 8y ago
    I can see where this is heading. LOL
  - adrianN 8y ago
    Now I want to train a GAN that takes images' alt text and reproduces the image.
  - pferde 8y ago
    That will be remembered as day when "Catwoman" went from being sexy to being weird and disgusting.

cimmanom 8y ago

Yes, but how do you keep the client from then sending that data to the server?

beatgammit 8y ago
You can't. Even if you block JavaScript, they can still get it from CSS media queries, where the can say which file to download given a certain screen size. The best solution is to use the same screen size as everyone else so you don't stand out. And that's what this does.
- cimmanom 8y ago
  Right, that’s what I’m saying. Keeping the data client side as ggp suggests is not possible.