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Please cite something specific -- as in, a specific document within the Snowden dump, a news article which reaches that conclusion based on multiple documents,

Please cite something specific -- as in, a specific document within the Snowden dump, a news article which reaches that conclusion based on multiple documents, etc. Waving your hands and mouthing the word "Snowden" doesn't support just any defamatory statement you want to make about the government spy agencies -- and making up allegations cheapens the legitimate charges against them.

craftinator 8y ago
I would assume that you'd read the relevant documents prior to commenting. Scroll down to "United States", click on the reference links next to each illegal domestic surveillance programs. If the link yields another wiki page, keep clicking on the reference links util you find the relevant documents. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_government_mass_surveillance_projects https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_government_mass_surv...
- NotAnEconomist 8y ago
  > If the link yields another wiki page, keep clicking on the reference links util you find the relevant documents. Neither snark nor a Wiki labyrinth are a specific citation for what you said: "The largest share of the data they collect is about Americans." Nothing on that Wikipedia page supports that claim, and certainly not with a citation from the Snowden documents. You're just bullshitting, and you're bullshitting on a serious topic like national security. It's transparent you're doing so, because you're citing non-specific things like a general Wikipedia page on the topic, after alleging a very serious thing was supported by the Snowden documents. If you were serious, and being honest, you'd have cited a specific document. Or set of documents. Or an analysis which supported your position. But you're not. (Nor is that Wiki page: several things listed as mass surveillance are nothing of the sort, and just regular ol spy work against foreign targets.)

craftinator 8y ago

I would assume that you'd read the relevant documents prior to commenting. Scroll down to "United States", click on the reference links next to each illegal domestic surveillance programs. If the link yields another wiki page, keep clicking on the reference links util you find the relevant documents. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_government_mass_surveillance_projects https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_government_mass_surv...

NotAnEconomist 8y ago
> If the link yields another wiki page, keep clicking on the reference links util you find the relevant documents. Neither snark nor a Wiki labyrinth are a specific citation for what you said: "The largest share of the data they collect is about Americans." Nothing on that Wikipedia page supports that claim, and certainly not with a citation from the Snowden documents. You're just bullshitting, and you're bullshitting on a serious topic like national security. It's transparent you're doing so, because you're citing non-specific things like a general Wikipedia page on the topic, after alleging a very serious thing was supported by the Snowden documents. If you were serious, and being honest, you'd have cited a specific document. Or set of documents. Or an analysis which supported your position. But you're not. (Nor is that Wiki page: several things listed as mass surveillance are nothing of the sort, and just regular ol spy work against foreign targets.)