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YC has "partnered" with Facebook only as much as it benefits YC companies tremendously to have inside access and help from the largest and most dominant social

YC has "partnered" with Facebook only as much as it benefits YC companies tremendously to have inside access and help from the largest and most dominant social network. Partnering with them can hardly be construed as an endorsement of everything Facebook does. Also, it's only fair to disclose that you have a very public history with Facebook and would have plenty of reasons to lobby this criticism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Facebook#Aaron_Greenspan_and_houseSYSTEM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Facebook#Aaron_Gre...

thinkcomp 16y ago
First, every time I make such a disclaimer about something that you're saying is already "very public" I'm criticized for not being quiet about my prior involvement, but if you think that needed to be clarified, that's fine. Either way, in this case my role is completely immaterial. I said that I've written about this topic in the past, so anyone can click on my username and see. My real name is clearly in my profile for anyone to look up. Yours isn't, and I don't see it on your web site, either. And as the CEO of a Y Combinator-backed company, you might want to disclose that you are the beneficiary of the inside access you reference. Second, call me crazy, but it's an official partnership from what has been reported, not a "partnership." Third, partnership is an endorsement, plain and simple. You don't partner with people you don't support; you partner with ones you do.
- lisper 16y ago
  > partnership is an endorsement Word.
- gojomo 16y ago
  partnership is an endorsement, plain and simple Not at all. I'll continue the Facebook ⟺ Communist China comparison of my other comment – which ought to demonstrate I'm not coming at this issue with total sympathy for Facebook. A policy of engagement means only, "we're pragmatic enough to work together on matters of common benefit", not "we endorse everything about our partner". A lot of positive-sum interactions would be lost, and society would be a lot less civil, if we had to shun partnering with anyone we weren't ready to 'endorse'. That's the mindset of a crusader rather than a businessperson.
- andreyf 16y ago
  Why talk in such absolute terms? YC is in it for option of early exists into Facebook (Zuckerberg is frank about his support for acquisition-as-a-hiring-bonus). Facebook sees it as a way of hiring the top talent coming out of universities. Facebook also does stupid things sometimes, like violating obvious privacy expectations set by a recent launch. Not the end of the world (people can tell each other about lamebook in other ways), but clearly a mistake. Your phrasing forces them to acknowledge weakness with the mistake. Skip the ego.
  - Yzupnick 16y ago
    >Why talk in such absolute terms? I'm not saying that I agree with her, but this is exactly the type of language Ayn Rand hates, and frequently makes fun of in Atlas Shrugged.

thinkcomp 16y ago

First, every time I make such a disclaimer about something that you're saying is already "very public" I'm criticized for not being quiet about my prior involvement, but if you think that needed to be clarified, that's fine. Either way, in this case my role is completely immaterial. I said that I've written about this topic in the past, so anyone can click on my username and see. My real name is clearly in my profile for anyone to look up. Yours isn't, and I don't see it on your web site, either. And as the CEO of a Y Combinator-backed company, you might want to disclose that you are the beneficiary of the inside access you reference. Second, call me crazy, but it's an official partnership from what has been reported, not a "partnership." Third, partnership is an endorsement, plain and simple. You don't partner with people you don't support; you partner with ones you do.

lisper 16y ago
> partnership is an endorsement Word.
gojomo 16y ago
partnership is an endorsement, plain and simple Not at all. I'll continue the Facebook ⟺ Communist China comparison of my other comment – which ought to demonstrate I'm not coming at this issue with total sympathy for Facebook. A policy of engagement means only, "we're pragmatic enough to work together on matters of common benefit", not "we endorse everything about our partner". A lot of positive-sum interactions would be lost, and society would be a lot less civil, if we had to shun partnering with anyone we weren't ready to 'endorse'. That's the mindset of a crusader rather than a businessperson.
andreyf 16y ago
Why talk in such absolute terms? YC is in it for option of early exists into Facebook (Zuckerberg is frank about his support for acquisition-as-a-hiring-bonus). Facebook sees it as a way of hiring the top talent coming out of universities. Facebook also does stupid things sometimes, like violating obvious privacy expectations set by a recent launch. Not the end of the world (people can tell each other about lamebook in other ways), but clearly a mistake. Your phrasing forces them to acknowledge weakness with the mistake. Skip the ego.
- Yzupnick 16y ago
  >Why talk in such absolute terms? I'm not saying that I agree with her, but this is exactly the type of language Ayn Rand hates, and frequently makes fun of in Atlas Shrugged.